Please explain to me the Ukraine Scandal.

[Initech]

I don't get why doing business with the Ukraine is a bad thing. Is this just a case of Trump exercising his "whataboutism" and attempting to fling shit and hoping that it sticks? Is it Fox News attempting to stir up his base? Or is it something else entirely?

[OliverQ]

1. What do you mean?

Trump extorted the new Ukraine President to conduct investigations into his political rivals and now he's trying to cover it up. That's a crime and an impeachable offense.

[Initech]

3. I want to know the flip side.

Why is Trump so frothing at the mouth batshit insane over this scandal? That's what I want to know.

[Voltaire2]

4. there is no flip side

It wouldn't even matter if Hunter Biden was murdering small children for sport.

The president of the united states used his office and the threat of withholding military aid to coerce a foreign government to help him defeat a political rival. That is a corrupt act and an abuse of power. 'Was the target of the operation engaged in bad deeds" is an irrelevant question.

[Phoenix61]

7. +1,000 nt

[malaise]

8. This

Should be an OP

[Initech]

9. So they got nothing then? Figures.

[Voltaire2]

13. Again it simply does not matter what they've got.

[tblue37]

12. Besides which it is a direct violation of campaign finance laws and of the law that

says you can't solicit foreign intervention in a U.S. election.

[OliverQ]

5. Because he's getting impeached and he's scared of that.

So he's losing his mind over it.

[yardwork]

11. There is no scandal involving the Bidens. Nothing there at all.

Trump made it up to smear Joe Biden.

[Hekate]

15. It is a scandal about Trump himself, that's why. He is the person who broke the law.

[uppityperson]

16. Because he's finally being held responsible for his behavior and being told "no"

He wants to be able to do anything to anyone at anytime that he wants, so long as he can profit. He got caught and confessed and did it again on live TV and can't understand why there are any consequences to his behavior because he's gotten away with it all his life. He's an ego maniacal bully.

[meadowlander]

18. Some bullshit about

Hunter Biden being on the board of a company that got in some kind of trouble in Ukraine and supposedly Joe Biden intervened somehow with the prosecutor there to convince them not to bring charges.

All the evidence has been debunked but Trump knows that none of his followers are going to read or pay attention to that. He just needs a vague scandal he can wave around to make his opponent look even more corrupt than he obviously is.

[ooky]

20. Because he got caught, and he is like a small animal flailing about in a trap.

And so now the demons are exploding from his body like in an exorcism.

[Flaleftist]

2. Birtherism! Benghazi! Biden Ukraine!

It's just more bullshit.

[uponit7771]

6. Just ask yourself or anyone else what law did the Bidens break doing anything? They don't have an...

... answer because they didn't

[C_U_L8R]

10. Arms for made-up Kompromat

Extortion and bribery and obstruction... with treasonous intent.

[Hekate]

14. Are you joking? This is not "business"--it is extortion of a small weak nation dependent on us...

...for military and other aid as they try to hold back Russia, which has invaded them with an army. You know? Guns and tanks and stuff?

It was once a US priority to hold the line against the aggression of the Soviet Union in Europe. Border nations are important, especially one with a new and fragile democratic government. We have treaties to that effect -- not that Trump gives a crap about treaties.

So Trump, who is a thug at heart, extorted their new president. Went in with his thugs in business suits and said, "Nice little restaurant ya got here. (Overturns counter) Be a shame if anything happened to it. We can help. I have a favor to ask, though..."

The favor Trump wanted, and still wants, is made-up dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden. Failing that, he will still drag their names through the mud every day in an attempt to ruin them.

Then he will turn his attention to Elizabeth Warren.

[NCLefty]

17. Withholding aid unless they investigate your political rivals is a Bad Thing.

[smirkymonkey]

19. Here, read this. It cleared a lot of things up for me.

Especially about his tenure w/ Burisma Holdings. Trump is full of shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden