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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:19 PM Oct 2019

Boston Children's Hospital researchers seem to have pinpointed the cause of multiple sclerosis


This could be a very significant development in medical research. The press release about it just came out today.

I’m sorry I can’t go into as much detail as I’d like because I can’t get the actual paper (behind a paywall). If you can get it and would like to comment further, please do!

It’s been known for quite some time that multiple sclerosis (MS) and other autoimmune diseases are driven by angry helper T cells (T lymphocytes) that somehow mistake your own tissues for an invader that needs to be attacked. People with MS, in a sense, are allergic to their own nervous systems.

A quick intro from the Boston Children’s Hospital press release:

Multiple sclerosis is an autoimmune disease affecting both adults and children. It's driven by "helper" T cells, white blood cells that mount an inflammatory attack on the brain and spinal cord, degrading the protective myelin sheath that covers nerve fibers. But there are many different kinds of T helper cells, and up until now, no one knew which ones were the bad actors.

Researchers at Boston Children's Hospital have now pinpointed the specific helper T cells that cause MS, as well as a protein on their surface that marks them. As reported this week in PNAS, an antibody targeting this protein, CXCR6, both prevented and reversed MS in a mouse model

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-10-rogue-cell-reverses-multiple-sclerosis.html


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/4/1890110/-Boston-Children-s-Hospital-researchers-seem-to-have-pinpointed-the-cause-of-multiple-sclerosis?utm_campaign=trending
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Boston Children's Hospital researchers seem to have pinpointed the cause of multiple sclerosis (Original Post) kpete Oct 2019 OP
Holy #####!!!!! sdfernando Oct 2019 #1
There have been a lot of breakthroughs in mice. LisaL Oct 2019 #2
Agreed. Mouse studies are informative, but don't always match human studies. Red Pest Oct 2019 #9
This must be counted (if replicated by others) Disaffected Oct 2019 #11
mouse models are a lot more accurate these days. mopinko Oct 2019 #14
The Mice must be thrilled elias7 Oct 2019 #46
K & R!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2019 #3
Wow, very promising, thanks for posting this! LiberalLoner Oct 2019 #4
K&R Sherman A1 Oct 2019 #5
That is the best news I have heard in a month of Sundays. Thank You. Oppaloopa Oct 2019 #6
Great news! yonder Oct 2019 #7
Most of excellent news! iluvtennis Oct 2019 #8
i take this good news very personally :) 0rganism Oct 2019 #10
Well I sure hope this good news... busterbrown Oct 2019 #25
Fantastic news! Nitram Oct 2019 #12
Hope they have the cause. pazzyanne Oct 2019 #13
I read your subject line and it made me cry, thinking a thought I hadn't in years. NightWatcher Oct 2019 #15
I'm sorry to hear this... Ellipsis Oct 2019 #22
This is wonderful news. I have MS and it runs in my family. I worry about my grandchildren. Cousin Dupree Oct 2019 #16
REVERSED MS in a mouse Politicub Oct 2019 #17
This story is a great story ChazII Oct 2019 #18
A friend's son has NF. I hope this or other discoveries AllyCat Oct 2019 #29
Thank goodness there are people willing to Ilsa Oct 2019 #19
Quite so. warmfeet Oct 2019 #20
Exactly right nt reACTIONary Oct 2019 #39
I hope their success with mice continues in humans. Claritie Pixie Oct 2019 #21
One of the medical holy grails. paleotn Oct 2019 #23
Hopeful news mcar Oct 2019 #24
I relate with your last paragraph busterbrown Oct 2019 #31
I have friends with MS Marthe48 Oct 2019 #26
Most excellent news. Ellipsis Oct 2019 #27
There has to be more to it than that. NNadir Oct 2019 #28
Please get back to us ! superpatriotman Oct 2019 #38
This hospital saved me from polio decades ago as a kid Submariner Oct 2019 #30
I've been in remission for 30 years B Stieg Oct 2019 #32
P L E A S E ! spanone Oct 2019 #33
Interesting GusBob Oct 2019 #34
OMGAWD......THIS IS FANTASTIC....... a kennedy Oct 2019 #35
wow! I'm borderline so I understand the concern jimlup Oct 2019 #36
Great news superpatriotman Oct 2019 #37
It's a MOUSE! PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #40
Some exciting news amuse bouche Oct 2019 #41
Thanks for posting this - wonderful news!!! Talitha Oct 2019 #42
Great news benld74 Oct 2019 #43
KnR Hekate Oct 2019 #44
This is AMAZING news! So good to hear. Maru Kitteh Oct 2019 #45
Awesome!!! Initech Oct 2019 #47
So Encouraging colsohlibgal Oct 2019 #48

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
1. Holy #####!!!!!
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:24 PM
Oct 2019

If this is true and works on humans, its an amazing breakthrough and will save so much suffering!

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
2. There have been a lot of breakthroughs in mice.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:26 PM
Oct 2019

I think pretty soon we will be able to have mice that live forever.
But yes, if it were to work in humans, it would be a great new treatment for a horrible disease.

Red Pest

(288 posts)
9. Agreed. Mouse studies are informative, but don't always match human studies.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:11 PM
Oct 2019

The authors (Hou et al.) do point out that there are limitations to the mouse model. In any case, the suppression of disease in this system, which identifies a key gene that seems to drive disease and also immunization that suppresses and reverses the disease development is quite exciting. Still, the results must be confirmed and expanded in other studies.

Disaffected

(4,557 posts)
11. This must be counted (if replicated by others)
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:18 PM
Oct 2019

as a major breakthrough even if the CXCR6 antibody that apparently works in mice does not work in humans i.e. once the target is identified, there is a good chance other treatments can be developed to counter it.

PS, I might add this is particularly good news for Albertans as we have here one of the highest instances of MS in the world.

mopinko

(70,138 posts)
14. mouse models are a lot more accurate these days.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:39 PM
Oct 2019

we arent talking random rodents here. these are carefully engineered test vehicles.
still a long process, but these humabs are working wonders in other autoimmune diseases, and the early ones have been around for over 2 decades now.

there will be plenty of funding and volunteers for any clinical trial, too, i would think.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
25. Well I sure hope this good news...
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:23 PM
Oct 2019

will come to fruition quickly.. There are a hell of a lot of people out there who are feeling the same way..

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
13. Hope they have the cause.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:38 PM
Oct 2019

As a person who has an autoimmune disease, I am very aware of what role T and B cells play in triggering and feeding those diseases. Now on to the treatment!

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
15. I read your subject line and it made me cry, thinking a thought I hadn't in years.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:40 PM
Oct 2019

There might be "cure" sometime.

I know this article says it's early, but I'm sick and haven't even contemplated the word "cure" in more than 7 years. I know I'll die years before any cure, but just the thought that some other person might not go through what others and I have for what seems like lifetimes of pain.

I'm eat up with autoimmune and neuromuscular degenerative diseases that I got just like my father and hope I don't pass to my 8 year old.

Just the concept of a Cure for anything is amazing and gives me a distant hope.

Thanks for the story. I'll read it this weekend when things calm down around here.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
22. I'm sorry to hear this...
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:16 PM
Oct 2019

This news fro Boston is profound for my household.

There is a physician in Chicago that does effective stem cell replacement for MS in extreme cases The process more then sucks. Its expensive ( of course) works for some not others.

Hopefully things can exponentially move forward with this discovery.

Best.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
17. REVERSED MS in a mouse
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:48 PM
Oct 2019

This will be a miracle treatment if the effect works on humans.

MS is brutal and heartbreaking. Imagine if a cure is found.

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
18. This story is a great story
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:50 PM
Oct 2019

and while I don't have MS I do have NF. Often a breakthrough for one disorder leads to a breakthrough in others that have no cure.

AllyCat

(16,193 posts)
29. A friend's son has NF. I hope this or other discoveries
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:45 PM
Oct 2019

Lead to cures for so many devastating and currently incurable diseases.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
19. Thank goodness there are people willing to
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:55 PM
Oct 2019

Devote their lives to finding a cure. Years of learning and researching, trying, learning what doesn't work (failing), and not giving up.

It wasn't a miracle, it was hard work. Science.

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
21. I hope their success with mice continues in humans.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:07 PM
Oct 2019

This is early stage for sure and still a long way to go, but incredibly promising that they've identified and figured out how to get rid of the culprit T cells.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
24. Hopeful news
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:23 PM
Oct 2019

Blessings on the scientists. I worked for the American Cancer Society in the early 80s, just out of college. At the time, they would finance internships for med and post-graduate students. I'd interview them and place article in their hometown newspapers about what they were doing.

Just about all of it was basic research. Some, I'm sure, have gone on to find these kinds of discoveries to help people with cancer, MS, Alzheimer's, heart disease, etc.

I was piss poor at science in my education, but I have a knack for getting people to explain what they are doing in simple terms. I've always found it fascinating.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
31. I relate with your last paragraph
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:00 PM
Oct 2019

Come from a family of MDs...ADD sits on my shoulder 24/7.. The Knack your talking about.. I have it too.. It helps so much..but its not easy to tell the truth to strangers.

NNadir

(33,528 posts)
28. There has to be more to it than that.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:44 PM
Oct 2019

The link, of course, comes from Daily Kos, and they're not very good at science over there.

CXCR6 is a common chemotaxis protein which binds to CXCL 16 which controls cell migration.

I'd guess that the CXCR6 is a mutant form, or that the antigen displayed on the nerve cells is mutant. The complete function of CXCR6 is not known to my knowledge; however it does seem to have an effect on the long term survival of cells addressing infection.

It is believed to be a target for HIV infection.

I'll check out the PNAS paper to avoid getting mangled science.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
30. This hospital saved me from polio decades ago as a kid
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:46 PM
Oct 2019

Great hospital. Brought my paralyzed legs back from the dead. Thanks BCS.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
40. It's a MOUSE!
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:02 PM
Oct 2019

Long, long way to go before this might work for people.

I wish this early research simply wouldn't be reported. People read stuff like this and think that a cure or prevention for something is just around the corner, and it isn't. Perhaps I should keep a chart of when a mouse model is reported, and when the medicine actually comes to market. At best it's going to be years. At worst, never.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
43. Great news
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:57 AM
Oct 2019

I was diagnosed in ‘97, but consider myself luckier than most. I also know people with this disease.
One day at a time

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
48. So Encouraging
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 04:21 PM
Oct 2019

I was quite young when finally there was a polio vaccine and parents no longer had worry about their children being stricken by it. Hopefully MS will soon be mostly vanquished. Then hopefully someday ALS.

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