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malaise

(269,067 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:15 PM Oct 2019

Romney has officially jumped from the sinking ship

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By all appearances, the President’s brazen and unprecedented appeal to China and to Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden is wrong and appalling.

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When the only American citizen President Trump singles out for China’s investigation is his political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process, it strains credulity to suggest that it is anything other than politically motivated.

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Romney has officially jumped from the sinking ship (Original Post) malaise Oct 2019 OP
Yet his phrasing remains weasely and weak. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #1
Well isn't that how weasels behave? malaise Oct 2019 #5
Hey, he didn't say "would be" (wrong and appalling), as before. Hortensis Oct 2019 #17
however, "By all appearances..." Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #52
:) Yes. Appearances can be so deceiving. Hortensis Oct 2019 #61
Perhaps kurtcagle Oct 2019 #81
Trump's behavior is so brazen and unprecedented IronLionZion Oct 2019 #25
I don't see where he says he supports impeachment. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #67
Agree. He hasn't gone there yet. triron Oct 2019 #68
It doesn't STRAIN credulity, it DEFIES credulity. SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2019 #99
someone wants to run for President again qazplm135 Oct 2019 #2
I call him WD40 malaise Oct 2019 #6
Except WD40 is actually useful. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2019 #82
I see what you did there - and you're 100% correct malaise Oct 2019 #89
If Pence is 'Agnewed,' Romney would be one of the likelier nominees to fill the VP slot. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2019 #86
Enemy of my enemy my friend...for now Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #3
Rather late to the party, but better than others. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2019 #4
jeeze romney, what would the world every do without you, huh ? pangaia Oct 2019 #7
He is old school Republican so I thought he'd be most likely to at least put his toe into opposing hlthe2b Oct 2019 #8
Mainly it's no political risk. If it were, he'd be like all the others. n/t moonscape Oct 2019 #79
Where is the "R word"? ScratchCat Oct 2019 #9
Wonder what trumps name will be for Mitt ... CatMor Oct 2019 #10
Brave guy. He still has 5 years before he has to run again. ooky Oct 2019 #11
And Utah loves him... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #13
+1 n/t ooky Oct 2019 #15
My brain and mouth are screaming :: AND???? WHATCHA GONNA DO MITTENS??? n/t MFGsunny Oct 2019 #12
Write another strongly worded tweet is my guess. Maybe Luz Oct 2019 #93
A tweet? How about a press conference instead. Yavin4 Oct 2019 #14
Who cares? The Republican Party is doomed FakeNoose Oct 2019 #16
That gif... uriel1972 Oct 2019 #49
I was thinking the same thing. Blue_playwright Oct 2019 #51
I did not like that segment in Creepshow at all. whopis01 Oct 2019 #76
Not sure, but I think you're right FakeNoose Oct 2019 #77
Old Willard is just Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #18
Yep customerserviceguy Oct 2019 #47
Willard was Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #48
+1, uponit7771 Oct 2019 #69
Big fires start with tender little sparks. Maru Kitteh Oct 2019 #19
K&R w/ an old Navy expression: How do you know a ship is sinking? Jeffersons Ghost Oct 2019 #20
LOL malaise Oct 2019 #36
By all appearances? GeorgeGist Oct 2019 #21
He's testing the waters Mz Pip Oct 2019 #22
Would love to see him take on Dotard. Pepsidog Oct 2019 #28
Agree. He hasn't jumped ship. MurrayDelph Oct 2019 #78
Good Ol' Mitt HubertHeaver Oct 2019 #23
How long before he starts to... 3catwoman3 Oct 2019 #24
I will take it. Good for him. Pepsidog Oct 2019 #26
Now let's see what he actually does. Talk is cheap, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #27
And what are you doing about it Mitt? IronLionZion Oct 2019 #29
And what are you doing about it, Mitt? Peace06 Oct 2019 #66
So Mitt you say its appalling, what do you want done about it?!? huh? Joe941 Oct 2019 #30
Yea, we is now all saved! Canoe52 Oct 2019 #31
I have to say I'm impressed by this on Mitt's part The Liberal Lion Oct 2019 #32
I think he's only speaking out to see if he has a chance to run in 2020 ReformedGOPer Oct 2019 #43
This is still no indication how he would vote in regard to impeachment. world wide wally Oct 2019 #33
This is a start Botany Oct 2019 #34
That would be nice malaise Oct 2019 #37
No way to sugar coat this. Treason. Botany Oct 2019 #39
Then challenge him for 2020, Mitt. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2019 #35
IMO, before the end of the year ScratchCat Oct 2019 #46
Translation....Oh dear!!!!!! n/t asiliveandbreathe Oct 2019 #38
But "strains credulity" is a "nothing burger" to Lindsey Graham. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #40
This could be the beginning of the end. Hamlette Oct 2019 #41
Thanks for this malaise Oct 2019 #42
I'm glad it was a Republican ScratchCat Oct 2019 #44
If the ship is sinking, the rats have a point... nt uriel1972 Oct 2019 #45
This shouldn't surprise anyone. Romney has never been a Trump fan. intheflow Oct 2019 #50
Not true LiberalLovinLug Oct 2019 #58
Thanks. intheflow Oct 2019 #64
Just trying to schmooze his way into the SecState job. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2019 #87
That pisses me off more than the ones who have always been for Trump Sapient Donkey Oct 2019 #96
But... Don't expect .... flying-skeleton Oct 2019 #53
Let me know when he has a spine to back it up. 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #54
If Romney's brow furrows any more, pretty soon he's going to be "deeply concerned." klook Oct 2019 #55
Yeah, right dajoki Oct 2019 #56
I wouldn't get all warm and tingly over it. Texin Oct 2019 #57
When RMoney officially jumps off the (R)epuglicon ship and admits his own problems erronis Oct 2019 #59
And if it came to a vote. Kablooie Oct 2019 #60
Any break in the dam is a break in the dam Recursion Oct 2019 #62
WOW, just wow. lark Oct 2019 #63
That will not stop BillyBobBrilliant Oct 2019 #65
Mitt Romney has no need for Donald Trump. LisaM Oct 2019 #70
Romney is shockingly without principle, even for a Republican Azathoth Oct 2019 #71
For this thread Gothmog Oct 2019 #72
Good gawd, this guy again? "Maybe NOW is my time to become president!" C Moon Oct 2019 #73
Weak! rainin Oct 2019 #74
Tsk Tsk Hangdog Slim Oct 2019 #75
He's done this before. It ain't official until there's real action... JHB Oct 2019 #80
They're all going to have to get there... better to lead ecstatic Oct 2019 #83
Thanks, Willard. BHDem53 Oct 2019 #84
Well, this is a damn good START. nt Duppers Oct 2019 #85
He never was on it. pintobean Oct 2019 #88
K&R... spanone Oct 2019 #90
Someone once called Romney a "perfectly lubricated weather vane." NCLefty Oct 2019 #91
Hence my mention of WD40 malaise Oct 2019 #92
Please, a weak tweet isn't jumping ship TeamPooka Oct 2019 #94
i applaud romney here. no matter his motive. Lib 4 Life Oct 2019 #95
At least there is ONE Russiapublican who will speak the truth on this. Let the rest paint UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #97
Waiting for someone not in a safe seat and not retiring to challenge Trump. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #98
Kick ck4829 Oct 2019 #100
BFD? 'wrong and appalling . . . (nothing) other than politically motivated.' elleng Oct 2019 #101
I don't trust Romney at all. Golden Raisin Oct 2019 #102
rumor has it... GetRidOfThem Oct 2019 #103
We need him Norbert Oct 2019 #104
Good news for Romney is that Trump doesn't know what credulity means. Renew Deal Oct 2019 #105
Yeah, those "Senators For Life" from Utah always start out saying sensible things Arthur_Frain Oct 2019 #106

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Hey, he didn't say "would be" (wrong and appalling), as before.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:29 PM
Oct 2019

This is strong Romney adopting an unconditional...tense. I'm surprised you didn't recognize the difference.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. :) Yes. Appearances can be so deceiving.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:05 PM
Oct 2019
Pence and Romney share a very providential overlap of religious duty and whatever benefits their secular wishes.

kurtcagle

(1,604 posts)
81. Perhaps
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 03:44 PM
Oct 2019

The Mormons vote Republican, but the immigration camps have a lot of more urban Mormons very rattled. I am inclined to see this as a weather balloon that Romney is using to get a feel about whether there's enough support at home for impeachment. He would be the logical rally point person for an anti-Trump faction in the Senate.

I think that you're going to see more Republicans in the Senate (and the House for that matter) break when it comes time to vote. I think getting to 67 is pretty much off the table, but getting a majority of 51 Senators voting to remove sends its own message.

IronLionZion

(45,465 posts)
25. Trump's behavior is so brazen and unprecedented
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:48 PM
Oct 2019

that all other republiCONs are reduced to being weasely and weak in deference to their chosen leader

or something...

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
67. I don't see where he says he supports impeachment.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:26 PM
Oct 2019

Acting "concerned" or "troubled" doesn't count for anything at all.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,842 posts)
86. If Pence is 'Agnewed,' Romney would be one of the likelier nominees to fill the VP slot.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 04:55 PM
Oct 2019

And, like Ford, raised to the presidency once Trump's gone.

hlthe2b

(102,301 posts)
8. He is old school Republican so I thought he'd be most likely to at least put his toe into opposing
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:20 PM
Oct 2019

what Trump is doing. He needs to go "all in,' though and bring others with him.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
9. Where is the "R word"?
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:20 PM
Oct 2019

Why is this one simple word so muthertrucking hard for people to say?

I swear, The Mooch is virtually the only person to call for him to step down... and that was before this Ukraine/China stuff.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
10. Wonder what trumps name will be for Mitt ...
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:23 PM
Oct 2019

I hope more republicans start jumping the ship so trump has to stand on the White House lawn ranting and raving all day long until they take him away for good.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
11. Brave guy. He still has 5 years before he has to run again.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:24 PM
Oct 2019

He has nothing to lose by going along with the lying.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
13. And Utah loves him...
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:26 PM
Oct 2019

His senate seat is rock solid safe, and his presidential hopes just rose about 5 points.

He'll be the "safe and sane" Republican.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Old Willard is just
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:30 PM
Oct 2019

positioning himself just in case there is another Jerry Ford coming down the road.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
48. Willard was
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:39 PM
Oct 2019

the Anointed One to carry the Utah Message of the White Night on the White Horse Waving the Constitution in his hand,announcing he is the savior. Nothing more,nothing less.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
22. He's testing the waters
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:40 PM
Oct 2019

I suspect he’s lobbying other Republican Senators to see if they’ll support a run for President should Trump end up on the trash heap of history.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,754 posts)
27. Now let's see what he actually does. Talk is cheap,
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:49 PM
Oct 2019

and Mittens has always been among the Concerned Republicans With Furrowed Brows who, after expressing their concern and dismay, go right back to voting the party line.

Peace06

(248 posts)
66. And what are you doing about it, Mitt?
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:12 PM
Oct 2019

Great question! Would love to hear his answer! Maybe, since he supports everything Moscow Mitch does, we should call him Moscow Mitt Jr. It would be appropriate since his actions thus far do not support his words!

world wide wally

(21,746 posts)
33. This is still no indication how he would vote in regard to impeachment.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:53 PM
Oct 2019

We've seen this song and dance many times before from various Republicans.

Botany

(70,523 posts)
34. This is a start
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:57 PM
Oct 2019

When the truth comes out in the un-redacted Mueller report, everything in Steele Dossier is proven true (pee pee story),
now this stuff of Trump calling other nations to do campaign dirty work for him, and all his and his family's grifting your
are gonna see several republican senators drop him like dirty underwear.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
46. IMO, before the end of the year
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:34 PM
Oct 2019

Romeny and others will announce their intent to seek the GOP nomination for 2020. Whether that is because Trump has resigned, I don't know. But running him in 2020 is untenable at this point(and they know it even if they wont admit it yet). I think the "behind the scenes" GOP money men are just waiting for Trump's complete crash&burn which can't be that far away given the events of this week and his continued "doubling down" on lawlessness.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
41. This could be the beginning of the end.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:14 PM
Oct 2019

I'm no Romney fan but I live in Utah and he's not so bad. He did pull our Olympics out of the fire and his stand on health care for all is not reactionary like the rest of his party. Trump is not popular here, Mormons hold him accountable for his moral failings, unlike evangelicals. I'd take him over Mike Lee any day. (I know, not saying much.)

I don't know how popular Mitt is in DC but Trump may know better than to go after him. If he can withstand it, others may follow?

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
44. I'm glad it was a Republican
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:29 PM
Oct 2019

Who made this statement about "strains credulity" to suggest its not politically motivated. That completely derails the "he's just investigating corruption, what's wrong about that?" talking point that many GOPers seemed to have received in the last 24hrs and were going to go with it as a deflection. I mean, we all know its nonsense, but for Romney to go out early and "call bs" on it is perfect. Its like he just told the rest of the party "don't even think about going to stupid land defending this".

intheflow

(28,480 posts)
50. This shouldn't surprise anyone. Romney has never been a Trump fan.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:43 PM
Oct 2019

He's spoken out against Trump even prior to the 2016 election.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
58. Not true
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:02 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/11/29/romney-praises-trump-after-their-dinner

Former presidential candidate Mitt Romney praised President-elect Donald Trump after the two men went to dinner as Trump continues to deliberate about his choice for secretary of State. “I had a wonderful evening with President-elect Trump,” Romney said after leaving the dinner. “We had another discussion about affairs throughout the world and these discussions I’ve had with him have been enlightening, and interesting, and engaging. I’ve enjoyed them very, very much. I was also very impressed by the remarks he made on his victory night. By the way, it’s not easy winning. I know that myself. He did something I tried to do and was unsuccessful in. He won the general election and he continues with a message of inclusion and bringing people together and his vision is something which obviously connected with the American people in a very powerful way. The last few weeks he's been carrying or a transition effort and I can tell you I’ve been impressed by what I've seen in the transition effort.”


I want a scorched earth policy. These rats leaving the ship that turn a 180 as soon as there is nothing in it for them. I can hardly wait for Lindsay Graham's tearful speech, flipping back 180..from his last 180 flip...and making excuses how he was so duped.

intheflow

(28,480 posts)
64. Thanks.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:10 PM
Oct 2019

I only remembered his speech shortly before the Republican convention in 2016, urging the party to reject Trump as a candidate. This is a good addendum to know - and probably missed because of the shock and awe news cycle and Trump's heinous actions every day since he was elected.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
96. That pisses me off more than the ones who have always been for Trump
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:28 PM
Oct 2019

because you know that they know without a doubt that Trump is a piece of shit, but they still reeled in their dislike for him and played on his team despite knowing how awful he is.

flying-skeleton

(697 posts)
53. But... Don't expect ....
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:50 PM
Oct 2019

Don't expect Romney to vote to Impeaching Trump. Because at the end of the day, Romney is just another Republican hack who will put himself above the country !!

klook

(12,158 posts)
55. If Romney's brow furrows any more, pretty soon he's going to be "deeply concerned."
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:53 PM
Oct 2019

I'll get excited when he says these are impeachable offenses.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
57. I wouldn't get all warm and tingly over it.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:57 PM
Oct 2019

Romney is a notorious waffler. He may use language such as "appalling" and "strains credulity", but calling out tRump's behavior is one thing. Words are easy. Watch his actions going forward.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
60. And if it came to a vote.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:03 PM
Oct 2019

He would say it’s appalling but Doesn’t rise to an impeachable offense.
No republicans are there yet folks.

lark

(23,123 posts)
63. WOW, just wow.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:09 PM
Oct 2019

Amazing how Repugs onl tell the truth or even more than a small portion of it, when it's to their own benefit.

Disgusting worms, although I am really glad to see this as the inquiry now has bipartisan support. That will be big plus points with independents and security minded repugs (I know that's funny, but maybe a few will act responsibly on something this big).

On 2nd read - yeah I have a hard time believing more than 1 -2 repugs will vote to remove the criminal grifter and person who puts our national interests as risk for his own and probably PUtin's profit.

BillyBobBrilliant

(805 posts)
65. That will not stop
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:11 PM
Oct 2019

Holy-underwear boy from supporting every action that the usurper takes from now until e is exterminated.

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
70. Mitt Romney has no need for Donald Trump.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:32 PM
Oct 2019

I always figured that because he is not beholden to Trump in any way, he'd be a thorn in Trump's side at some point. Guess the time is now.

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
71. Romney is shockingly without principle, even for a Republican
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:32 PM
Oct 2019

Hell, even Trump is consistent in his racism and venality.

Romney literally has no core at all. He'll attack Trump as the greatest threat to the Republic on Monday, then crawl to his table on Tuesday begging to be Secretary of State.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
80. He's done this before. It ain't official until there's real action...
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 03:36 PM
Oct 2019

...like an impeachment vote.

His language is also pretty weak sauce, but then, one has to allow for the source.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
83. They're all going to have to get there... better to lead
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 03:52 PM
Oct 2019

rather than follow at the bitter end.

Of course, the ones with active blackmail/extortion arrangements will probably go down with the ship. Thing is, it will all come out in time. Hopefully they realize that.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
91. Someone once called Romney a "perfectly lubricated weather vane."
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:22 PM
Oct 2019

He's always watching for when he need to switch his position on something.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
97. At least there is ONE Russiapublican who will speak the truth on this. Let the rest paint
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:30 PM
Oct 2019

themselves into their corners.

elleng

(130,983 posts)
101. BFD? 'wrong and appalling . . . (nothing) other than politically motivated.'
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:30 PM
Oct 2019

Take another tiptoe, Mitt? Please?

Golden Raisin

(4,609 posts)
102. I don't trust Romney at all.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:14 PM
Oct 2019

He's a flip-flopper, expedient and as spineless as a jellyfish. It's "X" today, "Y" tomorrow and "Z" last week. Ball-less weathervane.

Arthur_Frain

(1,854 posts)
106. Yeah, those "Senators For Life" from Utah always start out saying sensible things
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:18 PM
Oct 2019

Then, after a reelection cycle or two, bam, you’ve got Orrin Hatch.

Trust me. Mitt ain’t on board your train.

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