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RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:33 AM Oct 2019

The dam is breaking on Trump's criminal and traitorous behavior whilst in office...

leaks beget leaks which beget leaks... it is a deluge of obvious oath-breaking, criminality, bribery, extortion, and the like. It will only build from here.

The problem which we must grapple with, and solve, is that nearly the entirety of the Republican party (both elected and voting) does not care about lawlessness, faithlessness, treason, or even worse. The deluge of criminality is nothing to them. Really nothing at all. They care about "are you on my team? Oh, good! Well, then everything else is fine."

As I see it, the purpose of any impeachment inquiry is not really about developing an evidentiary basis for the Senate to remove Trump (McConnell's Senate will NOT do that in any imaginable universe. Period). The purpose of any impeachment inquiry is to bring. the. electoral. pain. to GOP Congresspersons and Senators for declining to impeach and remove.

McConnell et al will manipulate the Senate rules in obviously bogus and downright "up-is-down, down-is-up; we've always been at war with Eastasia" manners to prevent the Senate trial from actually dealing with the majority of the evidence against Trump. As such, it falls to Pelosi, Schiff et al to bring this evidence center stage *prior to the impeachment vote* to make sure that any Repuke voting against impeachment or removal pays the maximum electoral price for that behavior. It won't be the penalty they deserve, but we must make it the best penalty we can extract.

THAT needs to be our focus -- make the GOP pay the largest price possible for their fealty to Putin's puppet.

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NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
1. Alarm bells are ringing in the capital but Republicans are hard of hearing.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:40 AM
Oct 2019

It must be the age of their base. :p

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
3. You know, I don't think anyone can predict what is going to happen re: impeachment from one day to
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 03:22 AM
Oct 2019

the next.

The question in my mind is whether there will be enough repubs in the Senate that will put country before party or not. Nobody knows.

Today trump did his stunt this morning calling on Ukraine and China and tonight he says he can do what ever he wants. So now, how many will condemn that? Nobody knows.

Tonight the emails were released. What impact will that have? Nobody knows.

What is going on behind the scene? Nobody knows.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
5. You genuinely believe it's an open question whether Senate GOPers will put party or country first?
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 03:32 AM
Oct 2019

Really?.... Why? How?

On what evidence are you basing the conclusion that it is legitimate to be undecided?

Because all of the evidence available from the past DECADE (+/-) of GOP Senate majority under McConnell says that it is CLEARLY party, not country. I would love for the case to be contrariwise and for the GOP to put country ahead of party, but... on what evidence should I anchor this expectation?

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