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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs anyone else here getting scared?
I'm delighted that we started impeachment but Trump is so unglued right now. I'm not sure what's bugging me but he scares me. He could make up shit about all of our candidates and leaders and chaos reigns.
I probably have reason to fear him, but I do. Maybe I just need to turn off the news (which I've watched non stop for a week).
SKKY
(11,823 posts)...our Democracy is way too strong to not survive this. Were good.
I get the feeling that we are going to blow the Dem nomination. Say hello to trump's second term if we don't pick the best candidate to run against him.
SKKY
(11,823 posts)Or rather, some numbers of comfort. 77,740. We had a crap candidate, who ran a crap campaign, and Trump still only won by less than 80k votes spread across MI, WI, and PA.
Here is another number. 8.4 Million. Thats the number of Obama 2012 voters who switched to Trump in 2016.
There is no way more than half of those will vote for Trump again. No way.
So, thats why Im not too worried. Plus, rule of law, the constitution, etc. etc.
msongs
(67,443 posts)juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Is fear itself!
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)virgogal
(10,178 posts)heads,going on and on,drive me nuts.
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)about their crimes, is beyond belief. I didn't sleep well last night. I only hope I can catch up tonight. I am tense 24/7 it seems.
sarisataka
(18,774 posts)bluestarone
(17,043 posts)Just seems the more BLATANT tRUMP gets, the more the RETHUGS PROTECT! Something ain't right here. What's their plan? I really worry most about the election.
shanti
(21,675 posts)Which is why I can't get more excited about the candidates right now. Getting rid of Chump is just so pressing, it takes most of my energy.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)with a tinge of Nihilism.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)jpak
(41,759 posts)Yup
Collimator
(1,639 posts)There's so much going on and much of it is beyond our personal power to impact. Do what you can as a citizen; make a few calls, compose an email.
Do what you can as a member of a civil society. Be decent and kind to others, especially those who have extra reason to fear being marginalized.
In the midst of all that, however, remember to do what you can for yourself. If too much media content is messing with your psyche, take a break. Practice self-care. Seek out the small joys of life. Your peace of mind is too precious to give away to anybody.
Ilan Omar said on Full Frontal the other day that (and I'm paraphrasing) just because she's living rent-free in the right-wingers' heads, she doesn't have to let them live rent-free in her own.
Think of every moment of happiness, peace, kindness and optimism as a victory over those who would tear you down. They say that living well is the best revenge. I'm sure that it doesn't involve beaucoup bucks, because so many on the Right have money but peace, joy and optimism seem beyond their reach.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)Response to Collimator (Reply #13)
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Collimator
(1,639 posts)Love it! I can't have pets, but I look online for sweet images or watch Too Cute! on tv. When I go to sleep I curl into my pillow at night, I think, puppies and sigh happily.
maxrandb
(15,359 posts)coti
(4,612 posts)More and more I'm seeing that what really binds this society together is consumerism and mindless entertainment blather- including politics. Politics itself isn't even taken all that seriously. It's all just part of the "show," I'm not at all concerned something really bad could happen. At the end of the day, no matter what happens politically, people are going to go home to their fast food and their TV's, and life will go on.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)One of them is the center of attention and the carrier of the nuclear football. The other is the center of the disinformation and message propagation which sets our fellow countrymen against us.
They're a formidable enemy and we'll be goddamned lucky to survive their murder plot.
nancy1942
(635 posts)Anyone who is not scared is not paying attention.
TheRealistRealist
(180 posts)Barr does not appear to be worried or concerned about the consequences of his actions. It's as if he knows he's untouchable. Why? Something just does not feel right about all of this. What was the GOP promised in exchange for their silence? We are in new territory and I hope Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Dems are staying two steps ahead.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)America is stronger than Donald Fucking Trump
murielm99
(30,765 posts)And we are stronger than Pootie, Kim, the Saudis, or any of the tin pot dictators 45 so admires.
I worry about a total meltdown that will lead to nuclear war. I can only hope and pray that a few people around him will not allow it.
When this madman is gone, there are a lot of things we will have to shore up in order to protect our democracy from future orange menaces.
Ferryboat
(923 posts)The rhetoric coming from the right wing groups 3%, the oath keepers is frightening enough. I'm starting to hear the same from people I know.
Its enough that I have stopped calling some people out on their bs. Others can still be reasoned with.
dustyscamp
(2,228 posts)Those guys who parade around with tactical gear and sunglasses at every rw event
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Republicans are still defending him even when he flat out admits multiple times he's soliciting foreign help to influence the election.
I just have no hope that America will ever get better.
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)Take a time out and do something you enjoy. It will
help.
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lame54
(35,324 posts)The overconfidence on this site
Until I see the knockout punch I feel Trump can still pull this off
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I remember the same overconfidence before the moron was elected.
I remember one poster, no longer on this site, who crowed how he couldnt wait to rub it in the faces of those who supported the moron - He planned to go out the day after and tell them all what he thought of them.
I often wondered how he felt when he saw the returns come in.
Lots of chickens being counted. Never a good thing.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)then it was somewhat of a letdown, because there were no consequences. I hope one day we get answers about what really happened.
doc03
(35,378 posts)he thinks it would help him politically.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)this sh!tshow began. And I too have no doubt he would.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)This all day long, and 24/7 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻
And if we can't vote, or our votes don't count, or our votes are nullified/purged, or if there's more redistricting, gerrymandered et al, then HOW do we as citizenry get rid of the insane tReasonous one, or stop him, Barr Giuliani and the other traitors? tRumpthuglicans don't care and aren't doing shit to make sure we still have a democracy.
tRump & tRumpthuglicans, and voters who support them are a moral.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)Even though pre-election polls, and exit polls dispute it. Even though there is wide-spread reportings of intimidation at the polling stations, and/or disappearing votes, voting machine flips, etc etc...
We should be asking ourselves what would WE do? Then it would US against the U.S. military and police forces. I can see this happening, and then these militias would be even more pumped to help quell any "disturbance". The new brown shirts to weed out the local "libtards" in their county.
But I was just curious, would WE rise up that time? Or meekly accept another four years of Trump fascism?
Because it seems to me that Mitch, Lindsay, and others that in the past may have seemed moderate, will see this as they have to be 'all in', with the cheating, trolling, suppression laws, and what I think is their ace in the hole: hacking voting machines to make sure of victory. I am uneasy at their seemingly arrogant lack of concern with winning. I suspect that technology has only gotten better, and that includes masking code, even so far as to print out a voting receipt for a D while still have the machine flip it for an R. These voting machines are owned by Republican supporters. Who knows what Mitch has promised them if they deliver?
abakan
(1,819 posts)I fear we are helpless to stop it.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)When you feel overwhelmed try solfeggio tone music or cute cat/dog vids or a really brisk walk outside - or all of the above !!
We are living in interesting times
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)He would have no compunction about incinerating hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions if he thought it would help HIM.
Furthermore, nothing can stop him from doing so. His order would need to be verified by a second person as an actual order, but there is NOBODY who has the authority to overrule/override his order.
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ecstatic
(32,732 posts)seriously as they should be. Isn't it time to move past the inquiry phase? He's admitted to his crimes at least twice by my count, 3 times if you include his "transcript."
Every moment this drags out he's getting more and more desperate. NOTHING is off the table with that psycho. We are in danger, but where's the sense of urgency??
pnwest
(3,266 posts)a river of shit before they get run out on a rail. Theyre not showing any signs of slowing down, actually seem to be ramping shit up to do as much damage as they can, while they can.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)If he gets away with it this time there is nothing out of bounds. The entire Federal Government will be part of his campaign.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)With all these whistle blowers, alarm bells are ringing in our capital. Meanwhile, Republicans are STILL spinning this shit to protect him.
How does it get fixed after we impeach in the House? He'll still be in power and the Senate trial will probably be a joke. Are we hoping the American people who are asleep still will suddenly wake up and "get it?" Ewgh...
Captain Zero
(6,823 posts)Basically a sweeping layoff to take out whistleblowers and intimidate anyone still employed ? Sure looks like it. Corporations will do this. They have 9-10 people they want to eliminate so group them in with a group of 60,/80, 100 so that it can't be detected who they were targeting.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)to make up a bunch of fake shit on Hunter Biden. And, unless his base turns on him, he will use them to pressure GOP'ers in the Senate to acquit. Trump knows he cannot avoid impeachment, but he is probably still quite confident that he can avoid removal from office, and will certainly crow about it should that happen.
You're right to be concerned, we're headed to a very uncertain election next year.
stopdiggin
(11,370 posts)The narrative has been that it "doesn't make any difference" what the Senate does .. so I guess we see what happens there. In any event, we are certainly not any WORSE off than we were 3-4 weeks ago. And the public is (starting?) to pay attention.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Donald is completely unhinged and I worry about what he could do with the immense power that he holds. Let's hope there's at least a couple of patriots left in the WH who can rein him in.
I agree about turning off the news. There's so much coming at us all day long. I'm going to (try) to watch less of it. I'm also focusing more yoga and meditation practice to help control my anxiety.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Itll all still be here when you get back, but youll feel much better able to deal with it.
Check into DU overhaul so often. The latest news is always posted here.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)For a lot of reasons, but the main ones are:
We are fighting something that is fighting for its life.
This administration has co-opted the DOJ, the State Department and large portions of the judicial branch.
A third of the population doesn't understand or doesn't care what is happening.
The executive branch has come close to shutting down the oversight function of the legislative branch.
One of the good guys, SDNY, may be folding on us.
Try not to look at Twitter. Yesterday I went there to tweet to the Hill to fire John Solomon. Examining tweets about Solomon, I saw a ton of trumpies or trolls thanking him for explaining the Biden scandal and pointing out all the "holes" in the whistleblower story! That guy is a traitor and not even a real journalist, and now implicated in blackmailing Ukraine...AND THEY ARE GETTING THEIR NEWS FROM HIM.
I love the posts reassuring us that our system will hold. I think it will, too. But it won't be a cakewalk.
eShirl
(18,504 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Go for a walk, go to the gym, go to a Beethoven concert.......
Falcata
(156 posts)going to enjoy every day of this scandal.
58Sunliner
(4,407 posts)I feel like I could go get my pitchfork and head to DC.
Nitram
(22,890 posts)jmbar2
(4,906 posts)I remember thinking when Bush the Lesser got reelected that at some point, the Republicans would push Democracy into a corner, and it would have to fight.
I was surprised to see it take until now for the fight to happen, but it's on. The battle for Democracy is being fought by a LOT of heroes - congress critters, Parkland kids, Greta kids, everyday Americans, and democracy heroes across the globe.
The forces of darkness are waging asymmetrical warfare. There are fewer of them than there are pro-democracy citizens, but they have to their advantage well-developed Russian disinformation strategies, right-wing media, talebangelicals, Incel warrior wannabees, and the transnational criminal mobs.
On our side, the desire for fairness, honesty in government and freedom is blooming all over the world - Hong Kong, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Russia, and every other totalitarian nation.
No amount of oppression and force can smother the desire for freedom and fairness. Eventually, the costs of suppressing freedom and democracy are so great that Totalitarianism will collapse. It's happening now.
Get involved in whatever way you can at your local level.
area51
(11,921 posts)struggle4progress
(118,350 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)When he says China is almost as bad as Ukraine for Biden?
What evidence does he have about China? Or is it just Rudy-mongering? Just rumors?
He is permitted to make any charge against anyone without any evidence at all.
He needs to be asked: "Where is the evidence?"
MFM008
(19,820 posts)Remember HE is the one shaking in his depends about all this stuff or he wouldn't be acting the way he is.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)Its a little scary but it had to be done.
Allowing this Madman to go unchecked was no longer an option.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)That fear keeps you tuning in, clicking and sharing.
I haven't watched cable news in years other than occasional glimpses. In those short bites I saw people sitting there substituting opinion, hearsay, belief, etc. for actual facts. That is a huge part of the problem.
Turn that crap off. You are not missing anything.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Yes I am still scared. I hope it is all over asap but I have no confidence it will be.