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MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:57 AM Oct 2019

How Can Anyone Take Trump Seriously Now?

He is a laughing stock. Every national leader on the planet must almost fall down in laughter when seeing him making ludicrous claims and demands. Worse, he is turning the United States into a laughing stock of a nation.

Today, he called on China, of all nations, to "investigate the Bidens." Meanwhile, he is conducting a trade war against China. Why would Xi or any other national leader take him seriously? The answer is that they won't and don't take him seriously. His belligerent transparency and shallowness are on daily display right now.

It would be comical if it were not so tragic. No national leader is going to be willing to join in a discussion with a madman. To do so would be foolish and dangerous. Trump turns on his heel and attacks anyone who doesn't acquiesce to whatever insane demands he makes. The only possible response to Trump is to ignore his rants.

The problem is that Trump is also the President of the most powerful nation on the planet in some areas. As a President, he is so volatile and irrational that it's impossible to figure out what response will not set him off once again.

There is only one solution to this: Impeach and remove Trump before he leads us into a global conflict to satisfy his hatred and lust for power.

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leftieNanner

(15,154 posts)
1. Let's hope that there's a tipping point
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:00 PM
Oct 2019

For Senate Republicans. Can Mitch see a path forward that includes removing Trump? We shall see. Hopefully not from under a mushroom cloud.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
2. I think they are very likely to join in a discussion with the madman.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:00 PM
Oct 2019

They know the cornerstone of any negotiation right now is to simply give the appearance that Trump "won." That is a very powerful weapon when negotiating.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
6. However, they also know that any agreement Trump makes can
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:06 PM
Oct 2019

be negated on a moment's notice. That, on its own, will keep them from negotiating with him.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
19. ...or any subsequent president, until some level of trust is rebuilt.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 02:08 PM
Oct 2019

If ever.

Our Achilles Heel(s), unfortunately, are now on display for the whole world to see (and make note of).

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
3. Next thing you know he will demand that China sell him Greenland, while promising that
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:04 PM
Oct 2019

Mexico will pay for it.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
5. It's long past time to stop humoring Trump.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:05 PM
Oct 2019

The media has been doing that for far too long. It's time to call him out for the madman he is.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. And they are still doing it today.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:13 PM
Oct 2019

So it appears Moscow Don is now including Xi in his campaign against Biden's. You give me what I want and I will drop the Tariff's.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
10. Xi doesn't believe that for a moment. He understands Trump.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:20 PM
Oct 2019

He knows that nothing Trump says is true in the long term.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
14. Maybe is should now be Donbas (Dumbass?) Don
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:34 PM
Oct 2019

To commemorate the Ukrainian region he wants their new PM to "discuss" with Putin

Reader Rabbit

(2,624 posts)
8. I still don't understand how anyone took him seriously in the first place.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:16 PM
Oct 2019

Does the U.S. have more stupid people than other countries? I know there is a culture of willful ignorance, but dayum...

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
9. History. The United States of America Has History.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:18 PM
Oct 2019

We want to believe that our President has good intentions. If that's not true, we often still believe it to be true. In other nations and cultures, history is often mistaken for future reality. It's the confirmation cognitive bias at work. Trump defies all of that, and has no good intentions, except where they benefit Trump..

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
11. My concern is that some take him seriously...
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:20 PM
Oct 2019

because he is acting like a tyrant and that is exactly what some of the heads of state are. He is one of them, perhaps this is not as off putting to them as we would hope. Worse, they see him as someone who can be used.

BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
15. He has become a "symbol" to his supporters and a cariacature to us
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:44 PM
Oct 2019

As a "symbol", he represents a metaphor for a certain societal mindset. Thus he has shed any expectation to conform to reality because he is no longer "real"... And he has successfully been able to convince his followers to embrace this role that makes him beyond human - a literal fantasy that embodies all of their pent-up hopes and dreams.

This role however, is as a super villain - one who has ditched the "honor system" expected for our system of government, and I really do think that the collective authoritative body is literally trying to grasp how to handle such an unprecedented turn of events and attempt to utilize what tools they can find from past history, to apply to handling him.

I suppose strategies used for handing mob bosses might be helpful but in this case, because Congress is not a "criminal" law enforcement body, their options are limited from that standpoint. Hate to say but they may have to "break some eggs" to get the job done and it's a matter of finding the best way and best one able to do that.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
16. Yet his strongly approve number is rising.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:46 PM
Oct 2019

And his overall approval rating is holding steady, as it has for his entire time in office.

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