Joyce Vance: Trump just committed a felony by soliciting something of value from a foreign gov't

[iluvtennis]

Joyce Alene
@JoyceWhiteVance*27m
1/ Trump just committed a felony violation of law by soliciting something of value in connection with a US election from a foreign gov’t on national TV. 52 U.S. Code § 30121. Violating the law isn’t necessary for Impeachment but it certainly warrants it. https://law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121

2/ The statute requires knowledge your conduct is a crime. After the Mueller investigation, there’s no way Trump was unaware this violates the law. Ukraine/China can you hear me is even worse than Russia, if that’s possible, because it comes from a sitting president.

3/ Campaign finance crimes also require a thing of value be involved. But as FEC Chair
@EllenLWeintraub
recently said, you don’t have to be able to assign a dollar amount. But, in the case of Ukraine, Trump did this. The help he sought was worth $400mil in US aid. That’s a felony

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[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

1. There should be a STRONG response from democratic leaders

Soon!!!

[Wounded Bear]

3. They've been closeted taking deposition with Volker...

I imagine we'll hear something as soon as they're out of that.

Those that are in town, anyway. Most are out on sabbatical.

[RainCaster]

15. And from the GOP as well

Is Moscow Mitch OK with such behavior? It's time for his spine to grow in

[MontanaMama]

2. I'm listening to Joyce Vance right now

on Chuck Rosenberg’s podcast The Oath. Excellent.

[klook]

10. +1.

Her history is very interesting. I hadn't heard the details of her father-in-law's murder before. The "inside baseball" discussion between her and Chuck was fascinating, and they both do a good job of explaining legal terms and concepts for a lay audience.

[forgotmylogin]

4. I like presidents who understand the job and don't "inadvertently" break the law.

[ancianita]

5. Every day, a soliciting of value from each new country creates a new Article of Impeachment.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Bigger: tRump blocked aid to US ally Ukraine to benefit of US adversary Putin. Subverting policy

Subverting policy for personal political or party political gain is Abuse of Power.

Which will get tRump first? Felony or Conviction in the Senate or Resignation?

[pecosbob]

8. I believe that was why Congress initiated the impeachment of Andrew Johnson

Subverting the will of Congress. Reagan should have been impeached for this.

[Duppers]

7. Joyce Vance is great!

Btw, two of the three countries tRump has asked help from in trashing his political opponents are Communist countries: Russia and China.

Ironic since the GOP is so harshly trashing Democratic Socialists. But does not seem to mind tRump's friendly arrangements with Russia and Putin.

[iluvtennis]

9. Exactly. Very interesting. nt

[Captain Zero]

16. Russia not really communist anymore

Oligarchic Kleptocracy. but still a foreign foe.

[Duppers]

18. Yup. Thanks.

Repubs do not understand that.

Actually is there a single country living under true communism? "A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is classless and stateless, implying the end of the exploitation of labour." - Wiki

Neither China or NK qualifies either.
N Koreans are living under a brutal dictatorship.

[dlk]

11. Dead silence form the bogus law and order Republicans

They impeached President Clinton for cheating on his wife and lying about it, and in the process, gave our country endless outrage. Yet when Trump commits what is arguably treason, Republicans offer essentially silence. They are no better than Trump, swamp creatures one and all.

[yaesu]

12. In a normal country, yes, but one run by a criminal organisation, not so much. nt

[DemocracyMouse]

13. This is all completely insane.

[Moostache]

14. How is that man so stupid?

Trump: "China, if you're listening, you should investigate Joe Biden..."
(*thinking to itself: 'Ha...this worked so well in '16...of course it will work again...')

**China seeing the moron's words for what they are: 'HA HA HA...well, now, let's see about the conditions for this trade war you started asshole...I think there is plenty of room for concessions on your end to provide us relief and EARN a cooked up scandal for your foe....but first, on your knees and kiss the ring of Xi you worthless bloated yam!!! HA HA HA'

Rational people across the world: "SMH!!! Are you SERIOUS?!?!?! What a goddamn rube!!!"

Trump supporters and MAGAts: "Yeah....get 'em a body bag!!!"

[triron]

17. Let's see, how many felonies has he committed now? I lost count.

So far no punishment though. A child just keeps doing it and getting worse.

[Cicada]

19. First Amendment blocks prosecution for this imo

I think a court would rule that the value of an informed electorate prevents prosecution for soliciting information. I think the first amendment prevents prosecution for soliciting info from any source, foreign or not, valuable or not.