Heads up: MF45 announcing plan to ruin Medicare this afternoon

[Tanuki]

He has nothing on his schedule besides a flight to Ocala, FL to sign his executive order which will focus on privatization and "Protecting Medicare from Socialist Destruction.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-10-02/trump-to-unveil-medicare-plan-in-bid-to-contrast-democrat-rivals

...."Trump is scheduled to travel to Florida on Thursday where he’ll deliver a wide-ranging speech on his administration’s health policy, and announce an executive order regarding the Medicare system, titled “Protecting Medicare from Socialist Destruction.”

Trump’s remarks will focus on Medicare Advantage, a program in which private insurers including UnitedHealth Group Inc. and Humana Inc. provide benefits in place of the government, according to two people familiar with the matter. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss Trump’s announcement before it is made public.".....(more)

[Lulu KC]

1. Nooooooooo----

Another scream into the darkness.

[rzemanfl]

2. How many people in The Villages have Medicare

Advantage plans? I wonder how traditional Medicare coverage for venereal diseases compares....

[babylonsister]

4. I bet just about everyone. Might not go over so well even

though it is a rethug haven.

[rzemanfl]

19. I understand the event is by invitation.

They will applaud, because in The Villages clap is, well you know....

[babylonsister]

23. Hahaha!

[gab13by13]

3. The Bloomberg article is a plate of spaghetti.

What are the facts, the details?

Medicare pays 80% of health care costs, Medicare Advantage type plans can be purchased to pick up the remaining 20%. Is Trump trying to replace Medicare with Medicare Advantage? That would be a complete disaster.

If Trump messes with Medicare through an Executive order he is toast. This has to be some kind of smoke screen that signifies nothing, I hope.

[Tanuki]

10. No, you are confusing Medicare Advantage with Medigap. The latter

is what people can purchase to cover the 20% not covered by traditional Medicare. More info here: https://www.webmd.com/health-insurance/medigap

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We don't know all the details of 45's plan yet, but it appears that he wants to 1) escalate the privatization of Medicare and 2) try to make seniors think that calls for universal health care will undermine health care for seniors, creating a potential wedge issue going into the election.

[Captain Zero]

21. Is he just going to put his name on the Medicare Advantage plans, change nothing

and claim victory?

[fmdaddio]

5. The Villages?

As I remember this is very well off bunch of Conservative retirees. They got theirs screw everyone else attitudes. They will drool over whatever the Vulgar talking Yam says.

[duforsure]

6. He plans to destroy Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security

Are something that'll adversely effect everyone. The lie he was for better health care once again exposes his true intentions, while he cons people into believing his lies. Just remember he lied saying Mexico would pay for his wall, he lied when he claimed he'd lower drug prices while taking in millions from big pharma, and did the same thing with coal taking in millions then telling coal miners he'd protect them when he knew he wouldn't, or like his claims he'd help the farmers, or have a better health care plan, all intentional lies from him to use to con people out of their vote. Remember he said he wouldn't touch Medicaid, Medicare, or Social Security, then did when they included cuts to their tax scam bill, remember that? I do, he's a liar.

[dalton99a]

7. Kick

[wasupaloopa]

8. Why anyone would believe a serial liar is beyond me. Trump does not give a shit about those seniors

Don't take the bait look for the hook.

[Desert grandma]

9. How can he do this with an Executive Order?

He will be destroyed. Maybe retirees in the Villages don't care, but the rest of America does. AARP will get involved for sure. There are a majority of us on Medicare that did not pick an Advantage Plan for good reasons. We do not want to be limited to certain doctors and facilities "in network."

[Tanuki]

11. I am a health care provider, and when the time comes I will definitely choose

traditional Medicare. The Medicare Advantage plans vary, but from what I have seen, they can really come up short in ways that people are not prepared for. Fine as long as you stay healthy, and as you point out, your choice of doctors and other providers may be sharply limited.

[Desert grandma]

12. What would he change by Executive Order?

Could he eliminate traditional Medicare and force everyone on to Advantage Plans? Surely he cannot do that.. I agree totally about Original Medicare. With that and a good supplement plan, almost everything is covered, without co-pays and limits to physicians and/or facilities.

[ooky]

20. My doctor and none of the doctors in his clinic accept Medicare Advantage plans.

It is my understanding that not accepting Medicare Advantage plans is the common practice in my area.

[Claritie Pixie]

13. Shiny Object! Volker is testifying today.

[Tanuki]

14. Could be, or on the other hand he could be slipping in something pernicious

while everyone's attention is diverted to impeachment-related issues. But I am confident that we can multitask.

[Thekaspervote]

15. He cannot change Medicare with the wave of his sharpie! If so, the rebukes would have done it

Years ago!

[Miles Archer]

16. He's moving up the "fun 2nd term project" because a 2nd term is looking like less of a sure thing

This has been a "fun 1st term project" for Mulvaney. No surprises here.

[Thomas Hurt]

17. If I heard it correctly on NPR this morning they are calling it...

the plan to protect Medicare from socialism...or something like that.

[GeorgeGist]

18. D O A

[TheFarseer]

22. Medicare Advantage sucks

Ask a social worker that has to deal with all kinds of insurance plans. People always think they are covered for things that they are not covered for. “No that’s Medicare, you have Medicare Advantage.”

[Desert grandma]

24. You are right!

Advantage plans require co-pays and have limited providers, unlike original Medicare. They are "no bueno" in my opinion. You can change back to original Medicare during open enrollment as someone pointed out, however to add a supplement plan (most people want one) you will have to go through an underwriting process and each individual carrier has their own criteria.