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Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 05:04 AM Oct 2019

Of all the wounds Trump has inflicted on our sacred institutions, probably the most enduring will be

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/1/1889404/-How-can-any-American-take-the-Department-of-Justice-seriously-anymore

How can any American trust the Department of Justice anymore?

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Of all the wounds Donald Trump has inflicted on our sacred institutions, probably the most enduring will be his administration’s utter desecration of the rule of law as it formerly existed in the United States of America.

William Barr, Donald Trump’s selected head of the U.S. Department of Justice, has thoroughly defaced not only the office but the very idea of an “attorney general.”


As Washington blew up last week over President Trump’s campaign to pressure Ukraine into becoming a disinformation arm of the GOP, his attorney general was nowhere to be found.

With the President of the United States now facing an inquiry demanding his response to looming charges of “high crimes and misdemeanors” that could justify his removal from office, where was the head of this country’s so-called arm of legal enforcement (or “Justice,” to use a term now becoming increasingly quaint)? This being the same person who is implicated in the scandal as acting as an instrument to cover-up this president’s potential crimes?

You would think such a person would go to ground, and huddle up with his own lawyers, considering that his own involvement may lead to his disbarment, a prison sentence, or worse. At the very least you would think that he would be striving to preserve his institution’s imprimatur of respectability for the rule of law, assuming he had any legal grounds to stand on.

Oh, but he was in Italy, tilting at Fox News windmills.

From The Daily Beast:
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Of all the wounds Trump has inflicted on our sacred institutions, probably the most enduring will be (Original Post) Demovictory9 Oct 2019 OP
Well, frankly... regnaD kciN Oct 2019 #1
+ that would have been my reply rampartc Oct 2019 #2
See: J. Edgar Hoover NCLefty Oct 2019 #3
He instilled a certain nasty culture in these departments. BSdetect Oct 2019 #8
The GWB DoJ J_William_Ryan Oct 2019 #4
And to think True Blue American Oct 2019 #5
We survived J Edgar Hoover at the FBI, we will survive this too Cicada Oct 2019 #6
Well, he will not be the first US AG to go to federal prison for being a criminal... NotHardly Oct 2019 #7
That's why the DOJ should be independent. Buckeyeblue Oct 2019 #9
Good idea! And note 1 thing about all names above? Duppers Oct 2019 #10
a goal of GOP is to foment distrust of gov't as they destroy it Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #11

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
1. Well, frankly...
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 05:11 AM
Oct 2019

...after John Mitchell, Edwin Meese, John Ashcroft, and Alberto Gonzales, I didn’t have much trust in the DoJ anyway, at least when there was a Republican in the White House.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
3. See: J. Edgar Hoover
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 05:36 AM
Oct 2019

We've been here before, eh?

Hoover was concerned about what he claimed was subversion, and under his leadership, the FBI investigated tens of thousands of suspected subversives and radicals. According to critics, Hoover tended to exaggerate the dangers of these alleged subversives and many times overstepped his bounds in his pursuit of eliminating that perceived threat.


That sounds just like Trump "rooting out the deep state."

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
7. Well, he will not be the first US AG to go to federal prison for being a criminal...
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 06:06 AM
Oct 2019
while serving in office. I would like to offer that the US Dept of Justice needs a new name just the minute we get the mud and stink off the one we currently have.

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)
9. That's why the DOJ should be independent.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:32 AM
Oct 2019

Most states elect the Attorney General. I don't think we could go that far, but somehow the DOJ needs to be independent and politically neutral.

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