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Two things: (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2019 OP
Although I think she should have got longer, it was a very dewsgirl Oct 2019 #1
I agree. applegrove Oct 2019 #2
Wonder if he knows about her racist social media posts? There wouldn't be any hugs from me. brush Oct 2019 #7
Yes, they showed them in the courtroom yesterday. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #9
Gosh, im hoping the love this young man is showing her will change her onetexan Oct 2019 #11
Let's not be naive. Prison life is even more segregated than life on the outside. Prison gangs... brush Oct 2019 #12
No naivete here compadre. Prison changes people no doubt. Ive seen it both ways onetexan Oct 2019 #15
Well we'll see which way she goes. With her social media leaning I'm betting she gets hardened... brush Oct 2019 #16
Was the apt door open? keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #3
Don't know. I feel sorry for all. applegrove Oct 2019 #4
I'm only sorry she didn't get life in prison n/t malaise Oct 2019 #19
I agree the sentence seems lite. applegrove Oct 2019 #21
The door was defective and didn't shut properly unblock Oct 2019 #6
Then she would have tried the key? keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #8
Well that was part of the prosecution's argument unblock Oct 2019 #13
Good! I already agreed with the verdict. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #17
This is a powerful picture Pachamama Oct 2019 #5
Would they respond this way to a male cop? leftstreet Oct 2019 #10
Did not know that. applegrove Oct 2019 #14
+1. Black America should stop forgiving white racists dalton99a Oct 2019 #18
They're not Americans malaise Oct 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #22
I thought it would make people read the two posts and look for two things: applegrove Oct 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #24

onetexan

(13,061 posts)
11. Gosh, im hoping the love this young man is showing her will change her
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 10:33 PM
Oct 2019

That does take superhuman strength to forgive the person who took away your loved one. This is such a tragic story overall. Hopefully some good will come of it and the families can heal.

brush

(53,871 posts)
12. Let's not be naive. Prison life is even more segregated than life on the outside. Prison gangs...
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 11:00 PM
Oct 2019

dominate. Whites gangs, Black gangs, Latino gangs—fraternizing with the enemy gets you in big trouble. Chances are she'll be more hardcore racist when she gets out.

onetexan

(13,061 posts)
15. No naivete here compadre. Prison changes people no doubt. Ive seen it both ways
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 02:22 AM
Oct 2019

One either get more hardened or one is transformed, either broken down by the harsh environment or improved because of it.

brush

(53,871 posts)
16. Well we'll see which way she goes. With her social media leaning I'm betting she gets hardened...
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:28 AM
Oct 2019

and resentful.

keithbvadu2

(36,917 posts)
3. Was the apt door open?
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 10:00 PM
Oct 2019

I have not followed all the details of the trial.

Was the door open?

Even if it was unlocked, her key would not have turned.

keithbvadu2

(36,917 posts)
8. Then she would have tried the key?
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 10:29 PM
Oct 2019

Her door was not defective?

Not trying to play devil's advocate.

Just wondering how this line of investigation would have played out.

unblock

(52,328 posts)
13. Well that was part of the prosecution's argument
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 11:27 PM
Oct 2019

Not only did she land on the wrong apartment unit, but she also missed several clues.

Defective door, unlocked, bright red doormat, and that marijuana odor that police always are able to identify in any other situation....

keithbvadu2

(36,917 posts)
17. Good! I already agreed with the verdict.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:28 PM
Oct 2019

Good! I already agreed with the verdict.

An earlier article mentioned that they had had a relationship.

Maybe it got inconvenient to her.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
5. This is a powerful picture
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 10:21 PM
Oct 2019

I have many mixed emotions about Amber Guyger and her killing of Jean Botham.

But this picture says so much that is important.

Whatever your feelings may be about her, what happened, what she has done in the past, what happened when she killed Jean Botham or what she did right after - I believe in forgiveness and I believe in making something good out of something wrong.

Cops don't usually get found guilty or do time. She will - 10 years, maybe 5 if she gets early parole. Either way, this is a big deal, even if you think she should have had the maximum.

I believe at age 31, Amber Guyger has the opportunity to do something right after this. She needs to serve her time. She will be 41 when she would get out, possible 36. She will still be young. Jean Botham will never have that time with his friends or family. But maybe, just maybe there can be something positive that comes out of all this and it started with that Hug from Jean Botham's brother.

I hope that Amber can take this time to learn about our institutional racism and even see it from the inside of the prison system. Maybe she can take the time to study and get a law degree. Maybe she can study and learn things that when she gets out at age 36-41 she can go help and do social justice work or educate. Represent minorities or families that have been killed by law enforcement. Work to changing the system.

I want to see from that Hug, Amber Guyger learn and do good.

Jean Botham will never be back. But maybe something can come from his death that will result in some good.

leftstreet

(36,113 posts)
10. Would they respond this way to a male cop?
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 10:32 PM
Oct 2019

The brother, the judge...

Why is everyone trying to comfort the white princess killer cop?

She didn't even TRY to administer FIRST AID!

Response to applegrove (Original post)

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
23. I thought it would make people read the two posts and look for two things:
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 03:28 PM
Oct 2019

that african americans seem to need to be superheroes to make it up to america like they have done something wrong or to get recognition and that this kid who lost his brother was amazing. Juxtaposed issues but important both.

Response to applegrove (Reply #23)

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