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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:31 AM Sep 2012

Bush Chief Political Strategist: Paul Ryan’s Speech Was Full Of Lies

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/09/02/787991/bush-chief-political-strategist-paul-ryans-speech-was-full-of-lies/

Paul Ryan’s speech before the Republican National Convention was riddled with lies, including a tall-tale blaming President Obama for the closure of a GM plant that announced its shutdown in June 2008. On ABC’s This Week on Sunday, Matthew Dowd, chief political strategist for former President Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign, criticized Ryan’s for its many falsehoods, saying, “at some point, the truth should matter”:

DOWD: Paul Ryan, what he did in his speech, I think so stretched the truth. And I like Paul Ryan, have a lot of great respect for Paul Ryan, but the elements that he said about closing the GM plant which closed before Barack Obama took President [sic], about the Simpson-Bowles bill which he opposed and then all of a sudden he faults Barack Obama for. At some point, the truth should matter…He was trying to convey that Barack Obama was responsible for the closing of that GM plant and that isn’t true.

Watch it:
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The Bush administration actually praised the closure of the GM plant to which Ryan referred, calling it a sign that GM was “adapting well.” So even former Bush figures are willing to cop to what Ryan won’t.
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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
4. Check this Google search result
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:50 AM
Sep 2012
http://www.google.com/search?q=Paul+Ryan+Lies

Almost impossible to believe this is a V-P candidate in the USA This is a mistake of epic historic proportions.

coldbeer

(306 posts)
10. Sarah Palin ran under four hours!
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:30 PM
Sep 2012

A four hour marathon is impressive.
Ryan must be a real flake. Sarah Palin
did it!
I am repeating 2nd hand info. I do
not know for sure if she ran a sub-four.
She is so funny and I would love to
have a beer with her!
My goal was 4 hours and beat it one
out of three tries.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
3. Someone said it a few days ago here on DU: One almost has to wonder if the repubs
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:37 AM
Sep 2012

are trying to lose. Glad to see the descension among the ranks!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
6. Maybe they made a deal to keep Bush and cronies out of jail, "We'll throw two elections ...
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:56 AM
Sep 2012

if we can just go home and cut brush for eight years"

I seriously wonder about what went on in the back rooms so America could save face in the world as the global economy was melting down.

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
7. Dowd is a straight shooter, and a decent guy.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 12:31 PM
Sep 2012

Let's not get carried away, thinking what Dowd says is at all representative of what rethugs really believe.

spicegal

(758 posts)
8. We all expect a certain amount of exaggeration and "salesmanship" at these
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 08:11 AM
Sep 2012

things, but that was ridiculous. Colbert likened it to "doping" (using the sports analogy), but then said, "meaning you're a dope" if you believe what he said.

calimary

(81,451 posts)
13. Not stupid so much as arrogant. Assuming that, because It's OK If You're A republi-CON,
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:22 PM
Sep 2012

he'd just get away with it. I think he assumed he'd just get a pass, yet again, because he's learned VERY well that he can go on Pox Noise and say anything he wants and they'll just fall to their knees say "Hosanna!" and start lighting incense to him and praising him as the Great White Wonky Hunky Hope. We never even saw the word "Lie" or "Liar" or "Lying" actually used in print before, or online, or on the lips of newspeople, anchors, reporters, segment producers, commentators, editorialists, bloggers, and more. Never. ALL THROUGH the miserable deceitful-to-the-bone-marrow dubya years. All Through Those Years, NOBODY except for us "radical lefties" and other assorted "Commie-types" here on DU and elsewhere in the progressive underground called it what it was - LIES. The "L" word. It was taboo. One simply did not say such things about "our" "President." The closest anyone dared come was "a prevaricating President?" Or "not completely true," or "less than honest," or "the President misspoke" or some other fig-leaf phrasing - ANY verbal contortions anyone could come up with to avoid having to say bush/cheney and that whole cabal - ALL were lying through their teeth, pores, and every imaginable secretion.

And now, look at the aftermath of Lyin' ryan's CONvention speech. Hard to count all the times we've heard and seen people on-camera and on radio, in print and on the internets, actually call his lies just that: LIES. I can't believe how many times I've seen the "L" word flung about so freely.

That's a welcome change. Surprising. But welcome. I'd just about lost hope that republi-CONS would ever be called out, widely and publicly. Not with Pox Noise and assholes like limbaugh always turning the volume up on high and outshouting any other viewpoint.

And that, alone, should tell us something: the lies are SO flagrant and SO ridiculous and SO embarrassing that they simply cannot be ignored or glossed over anymore.

That's a MOST welcome change.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. George Will is such an asshole.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:05 PM
Sep 2012

He KNOWS the message intent and denies it was ever there.

It's like watching Bush link Iraq to 9/11 over and over again and when someone says he did it they point out he never actually did. He just said "Iraq" and "9/11" in the same sentence,....over and over.....

bucolic_frolic

(43,275 posts)
14. GOP Using Ryan's Lies to Take the Heat
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:07 AM
Sep 2012

so that Romney's Lies About Obama will go Unchallenged
by the MSM

Beware, we are in a real tight race

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