"Why doesn't Pence ever know anything about anything?"

[mcar]

Gloria Borger on CNN just asked skeptically.

WRT this(bold mine): https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-involved-pence-in-efforts-to-pressure-ukraines-leader-though-aides-say-vice-president-was-unaware-of-pursuit-of-dirt-on-bidens/2019/10/02/263aa9e2-e4a7-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_pence-6pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

President Trump repeatedly involved Vice President Pence in efforts to exert pressure on the leader of Ukraine at a time when the president was using other channels to solicit information that he hoped would be damaging to a Democratic rival, current and former U.S. officials said....

Months later, the president used Pence to tell Zelensky that U.S. aid was still being withheld while demanding more aggressive action on corruption, officials said. At that time — following Trump’s July 25 phone call with Zelenksy — the Ukrainians probably understood action on corruption to include the investigation of former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden....

Officials close to Pence insist that he was unaware of Trump’s efforts to press Zelensky for damaging information about Biden and his son, who had served on the board of an obscure Ukrainian gas company, when his father was overseeing U.S. policy on Ukraine.

Pence’s activities occurred amid several indications of the president’s hidden agenda. Among them were the abrupt removal of the U.S. ambassador to Kiev; the visible efforts by the president’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to insert himself in the U.S.-Ukraine relationship; as well as alarms being raised inside the White House even before the emergence of an extraordinary whistleblower complaint about Trump’s conduct.

Perhaps most significantly, one of Pence’s top advisers was on the July 25 call and the vice president should have had access to the transcript within hours, officials said.

[dchill]

1. Real answer: he always knows enough.

He was brought in by Manafort knowing more than Trump.

[mcar]

2. I truly believe dotard will bring everyone down with him

just out of sheer spite.

[dchill]

6. Spite is his creed.

[lindysalsagal]

3. Because dried glue in human form has no brain?

[mcar]

5. ...

[leftieNanner]

12. OMG!!!

[at140]

4. Way-yell what is Pence's title?

That's right Vice president. Splains why he does not know anything. His main job is to be available in case the president kicks the bucket.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

7. CNN folks have really been calling bullshit lately!

[mcar]

9. Yes indeed

I've appreciated their recent reporting.

[Aussie105]

23. CNN has cried 'enough already!'

Tired of the fertilizer flowing freely from the WH, they are pushing back.
Needs to be more of this.

[jcgoldie]

8. I'll take a stab at this one...

... because he always leaves the room when a woman enters unless its Mother. So who would he learn from?

[mcar]

10. Wonder if his person on the phone call is female?

Oh, who am I kidding? He couldn't have any women on his staff.

[fleur-de-lisa]

11. Rudy has been blasting his Ukraine intentions for awhile.

How could Putz not know Colludy Rudy was looking for Biden dirt? Does Mother restrict his tv hours?

[ffr]

13. Couldn't they have waited one more day to break this story?

I think I speak for all of us when I say, we've had enough of this shitshow for one day!

Okay, now what was that? Mike Pence is a co-conspirator too?

[PlanetBev]

14. Pence knows everything about everything

He’s up into this assholes and elbows.

[Rebl2]

20. Agreed

No way he doesn’t know what’s been going on from the beginning.

[UTUSN]

15. Poppy BUSH was likewise "out of the loop"!1

[mcar]

19. Sure he was, just like Mikie

[Volaris]

16. Because he knows everything about everything, because he's in this up to his fuckin eyeballz

[ehrnst]

17. Plausible deniability. (nt)

[hibbing]

24. Just like any other corrupt administration n/t

[Snake Plissken]

18. Pence is dumber than a bag of Trumps

[oldsoftie]

31. Is there such a low measurement?

[NightWatcher]

21. He spends his life on his knees with his eyes closed, talking to his imaginary friend

[IronLionZion]

22. Because some folks are grooming him to take over when Trump is removed

[Cousin Dupree]

25. Because Mother told him he doesn't know s--t

[EveHammond13]

26. #MikeDense

[DonCoquixote]

27. the reason is

he hopes to be the one left standing, and he knows enough to know that is exactly what the Dominionist want.

[calimary]

28. "...down and down they go, round and round they go..."

This is mind blowing! I haven’t felt this vindicated since Nixon!

Are we at the “twisting in the wind” stage now?

[mcar]

29. It's been an amazing two weeks

and it just keeps coming.

I was a kid during Watergate, but Woodward and Bernstein were my heroes after. I don't recall it all going downhill so quickly.

[marble falls]

30. He's the fallback mook if Trump leaves one way or another. Pence is more dangerous than ...

Donnie Two Scoops. And he not a loose cannon. He claims his marching orders come from above. He knows more and has had more hand in stuff like Ukraine.

[Blue Owl]

32. The most useless VP in the history of the USA

To the most ineffective, illegitimate, and incompetent president in the history of the USA...

[FailureToCommunicate]

33. Rachel Maddow is covering Pence's involvement

right now.
Looks pretty damning for him!

[mcar]

38. He's complicit, no doubt

I'll pull up Rachel's show tomorrow. Thanks.

[Aussie105]

34. No one knows.

No one knows how far the current preliminary impeachment process will go.

1. Nothing happens. Maybe the odd sacrificial 'coffee boy' gets sacrificed to protect the upper levels.

All the way to:

2. Donald's criminal house of cards will crumble, taking Trump, Pence, Barr and a lot of enablers out of the political picture permanently.

My hope is for option 2, frankly.

[Kablooie]

35. It's the defense he thinks will enables him to be president

Since he’s involved, if he revealed his real situation Pelosi would become president

[njhoneybadger]

36. He's busy communing with Gawd and avoiding women

[Aussie105]

37. Hard to predict

who takes the driver's seat if the POTUS and his VP go down.
No historic precedent, there, I think.

Perhaps a caretaker government made up by people from both parties until the next election?

(Or call the last election NULL&VOID, leading to . . . . President Hillary? Just dreaming there, unfortunately.)

[Iggo]

39. And he wants to be my president.