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(22,670 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:19 PM Oct 2019

CNN fact checking of tRump's presser kills conspiracy in real time.

Trump Conspiracy Dies In Record Time As Whistleblower Lawyer Says Schiff Didn’t Write Complaint



Trump said during a press conference at the White House, “I think it’s a scandal he knew before. I go a step further, I think he probably helped write it. That’s what the word is. And I think it’s — I give a lot of respect for the New York Times for putting it out. Just happened as I’m walking up here they handed it to me. And I said to Mike, I said, whoa. That’s something. That’s big stuff. That’s a big story. He knew long before and he helped write it, too. It’s a scam. It’s a scam.”

CNN reported the facts:

An attorney representing the intelligence whistleblower told CNN that no one from House Intelligence Committee helped his client write the complaint…The whistleblower’s attorney, Mark Zaid, was asked by CNN if Schiff or the Intel Committee helped with the complaint in any way, his response: “Absolutely not.”

This is one of the fastest deaths for a Trump conspiracy theory in a long time. - PolitiusUSA

In case there was ever any doubt. We know it, but some undecideds might not.
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CNN fact checking of tRump's presser kills conspiracy in real time. (Original Post) ffr Oct 2019 OP
I'm sure Trump won't let that little fact get in the way of a good "scandal." n/t Chemisse Oct 2019 #1
Zombie lies never die gratuitous Oct 2019 #2
Then the media needs to lead with: UpInArms Oct 2019 #3
I saw CNN 4p Jake Tapper empedocles Oct 2019 #4

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Zombie lies never die
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:25 PM
Oct 2019

Trump will keep repeating it as if it's true, and Fox will echo the lie 24-7. The rest of the media will have no choice but to air the lie, "The President said again today . . ." and even if they say, "But it's not true," they'll hurt their own reporting by repeating the lie. Sooner rather than later, someone will ask a prominent politician about the lie and the zombie lie is reanimated and stalks the news cycle for another day or two. Depending on the reception, the zombie lie will go into hibernation for a few weeks and emerge again to bedevil the discourse; or it will pass into the received wisdom and narrative as an unsubstantiated claim that hasn't really/truly/finally been debunked.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
3. Then the media needs to lead with:
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:34 PM
Oct 2019

The lie that is being floated from the president on down ....

Is ...

And run that from the top of each story

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. I saw CNN 4p Jake Tapper
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:54 PM
Oct 2019

Breaking news at 4:00 was trump lashing out at fake investigation, Schiff, Pelosi, bad IG, all the usual suspects. With supporting chyrons, trump lashes out . . .

After several minutes of this, Tapper pointedly remarks on one issue, trump had no 'supporting evidence' for his claim. A panel soon pointed out defects in trump's various claims. Mild chyron support for that.

Hardly any coverage of Pelosi-Schiff statements, some of which were new and very quotable. Minimal video time for the duo.

After a half hour of this I realized that CNN verbally came out more against trump lies, not much 'both-sidism'. - but the chyron and video optics, probably favored trump. [The network defense, not hard to guess, would be that the President is the biggest news].

However, just looking at the chyrons, which is what I suspect a lot of people do, [the channel just on all day, CNN appears in some office/gymrestaurant, etc., setting that people see bits of - the CHYRONS ARE IMPORTANT!

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