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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:01 PM Oct 2019

There were Trump hotel envelopes in the packet Raskin had from State IG





By
@FridaGhitis
, CNN: "Raskin says there are Trump Hotel envelopes in the packet of disinformation and conspiracy theories [the IG brought to Congress]—which [packet] is of 'mysterious provenance.' There may be misconduct by Pompeo. The packet may have come from the White House."



This is nuts.
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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. god this is... bad
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:04 PM
Oct 2019

That IG's credentials were solid. I thought for sure this was going to be a sincere effort.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
4. The IG was warning Congress that PompeeO and the White House are spreading disinformation
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:10 PM
Oct 2019

and conspiracy theories. That's the understanding I get from it.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
9. I love the term "mysterious provenance" Sounds like someone collected a lot of
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:17 PM
Oct 2019

evidence for Congress in that "packet".

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
11. Yes we did. But in seems that there may be some evidence in that packet. Anyway that's
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:20 PM
Oct 2019

how I read it.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
13. Yes, it would be important to know if there is a concerted, coordinated effort at
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:23 PM
Oct 2019

the State Department to get on the same page to present these conspiracy theories. So it could well be helpful in making our legal case.

I'll be listening to the news tonight and maybe we'll get further clarification.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
12. I think that is why Raskin was so disappointed.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:20 PM
Oct 2019

But I couldn't tell why he was upset, but now I think I understand. The IG was trying to be helpful and was not trying to deceive, but like you said, this wasn't really helpful because it's known info.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
5. He's an Obama appointee and IG's are supposed to be independent. He shouldn't have been involved
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:11 PM
Oct 2019

in this. And calling members off their break back to Congress? Wtf.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
14. This isn't my conspiracy theory,
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:29 PM
Oct 2019

I saw it on Rachel Maddow last night.

Trump/Barr?Ghouliani/Pompeo are working to convince people that it wasn't Russia that interfered in our election but it was Ukraine. We have sanctions on Russia because it interfered in our election. Putin has a lot of oil and gas sitting in the ground that he can't get at because he doesn't have the technology like someone from Exxon Mobil has. If Trump convinces people that Russia didn't meddle in our elections he can do away with the sanctions.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
3. Nicolle missed the point of the packet
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:06 PM
Oct 2019

of disinformation. Rachel Maddow explained the reason for the disinformation on her show last night. If Trump can convince people that Russia didn't hack our election, that it was Ukraine, that means that Trump can lift the sanctions imposed on Russia for hacking our elections.

Russia is a glorified gas station and it has a heck of a lot of oil and gas sitting in the ground that it can't access because it doesn't have the technology.

The mysterious packet is about money and Trump doing Putin's bidding by lifting the sanctions.

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