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anyone notice the Stock Market is down 534.63 right now? (Original Post) gopiscrap Oct 2019 OP
Quit using the Dow. It is NOT the stock market and is a poor proxy for it. S&P500 much better. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #1
"S&P down 1.9 percent. " Yeah...and the DJIA is down 2.22% A HERETIC I AM Oct 2019 #8
Dow is 30 Mega-cap companies. It is NOT representative of the American economy. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #9
I know exactly what it is, and with all due respect, I think you are being a bit pedantic. A HERETIC I AM Oct 2019 #10
It's manufacturing Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #2
There are only so many stimuli one can throw at equities to keep them high Yavin4 Oct 2019 #3
I stopped looking at it daily. MontanaMama Oct 2019 #4
Time to cut those rates! CountAllVotes Oct 2019 #5
More importatnt True Blue American Oct 2019 #6
Another 20 pt cause Red Don is going off being stupid uponit7771 Oct 2019 #7
Of course NOT. Haven't you noticed "her emails" are being re-investigated? Submariner Oct 2019 #11
If you have stocks you don't like TheFarseer Oct 2019 #12
Kick ck4829 Oct 2019 #13

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,009 posts)
1. Quit using the Dow. It is NOT the stock market and is a poor proxy for it. S&P500 much better.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:25 PM
Oct 2019

S&P down 1.9 percent.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
8. "S&P down 1.9 percent. " Yeah...and the DJIA is down 2.22%
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:54 PM
Oct 2019

So what's the problem?

The DJIA and the S&P 500 move almost parallel to each other.

"Quit using the Dow"

Why? It's the preeminent index and the percentage change is almost identical to the S&P on a daily basis.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,009 posts)
9. Dow is 30 Mega-cap companies. It is NOT representative of the American economy.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:58 PM
Oct 2019

It is the preeminent index for people who don't follow the market much.
It is the preeminent index for headline writers.

S&P down 2.14%.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
10. I know exactly what it is, and with all due respect, I think you are being a bit pedantic.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:19 PM
Oct 2019

They don't just select issues willy nilly. When GE was removed (the last remaining of the original 30 "Industrials" ) they replaced it with Walgreens Boots Alliance. Are they the same sorts of companies? No, they aren't, but there are a shit-ton of Walgreens stores in this country and their market cap was such that it made a reasonable replacement.

The issues on the list of 30 aren't necessarily pure "Industrials" anymore, as I'm sure you are aware, but that doesn't mean they don't represent a reasonable, albeit small, cross-section of American business. The rise or fall of the index on a daily basis means exactly what it is supposed to mean; What traders feel is the likely profitability of a given company going forward.

That's ALL a stock price means.

It is a pretty rare day indeed when the DJIA and the S&P500 do not change withing a few tenths of a percentage point of each other.

If you REALLY want a broad index of the New York Stock Exchange, use the Russell 3000, which interestingly enough, is down 2.10% currently, only one tenth of a percent away from where the Dow is and 15 hundredths from the S&P.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
2. It's manufacturing
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:27 PM
Oct 2019

2 months in a row of manufacturing contraction. Manufacturing is likely heading into a recession this year.

Friday's jobs numbers are going to be a key indicator.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
3. There are only so many stimuli one can throw at equities to keep them high
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:28 PM
Oct 2019

Sooner or later, the real values shine through.

CountAllVotes

(20,876 posts)
5. Time to cut those rates!
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:30 PM
Oct 2019

Do it now and save America.


Idiot in chief is just that, an IDIOT!

& recommend !!

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
6. More importatnt
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:38 PM
Oct 2019

To the average person. Consumer confidence is down with the loss of manufacturing jobs lost.

After they had announced it was up. Facts matter.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
11. Of course NOT. Haven't you noticed "her emails" are being re-investigated?
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:36 PM
Oct 2019

How much crazy crap am I supposed to track all at once for chrissakes?

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
12. If you have stocks you don't like
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:41 PM
Oct 2019

It may be time to sell them. Hold onto the stocks you like. Wait a bit on buying more would be my advice, but I’m not a hedge fund manager.

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