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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy Trump is so intent on discrediting the Mueller Report?
Because the Mueller Report blamed Russia for interfering in our elections.
Sanctions were placed on them.
Travel by some oligarchs was restricted.
For some reason or other, Trump is insistent upon helping Vladimir Putin every chance he gets? What agreement does he have with Putin? Is it about money or something else? Did he borrow money from the Russians?
So, Putin wants to blame Ukraine and some hidden server for the attack on the DNC and the theft of their files. Trump and his lieutenants are attempting to clear Putin of any wrongdoing. Then things can go back to "normal".
It appears that Trump owes Putin a huge "favor"?
spanone
(135,844 posts)volstork
(5,402 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)Response to kentuck (Original post)
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Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)The real compromat on Trump has to be in the realm of money/politics.
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Iliyah
(25,111 posts)along with Pence and would also prove that the elections across the USA was tampered with also.
Putin wants Ukraine back and it looks like he is going to take it back piece by piece with the help of t-rump and the Republican party.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)We know one of his Achilles Heels is that he detests that most Americans know he was put into office by Russia's help, so he's highly motivated to discredit the Mueller Report.
But what is less often discussed is the high likelihood that Russian oligarchs laundered billions of dollars through Trump properties (one good source is Craig Unger's book "House of Putin, House of Trump"
Beyond that, there are still mysteries like strange bank transactions between Alfa Bank and the Trump Organization in the runup to the election, and the NRA/Russia money funnelling. He's exposed on many fronts.
So IMO it's not just that he owes Russia, but he has to please Putin to keep Putin from revealing the money angle you mention in your OP.
Nictuku
(3,614 posts)Do you all remember in Helsinki, when he was going against the US Intelligence and siding with Putin's denial, he said that Putin had offered him a wonderful solution, to combine Russian investigators with US investigators to get to the bottom of this? I can't remember if this is before or after the 12 Russians were indicted by Mueller, I think it was after. Putin wants those indictments and the determination that Russia was behind the hacking to go away. (so the sanctions can be lifted) And I think that is now what we are seeing with Barr and Pompeo globe trotting. Putin has been giving directives to Trump to send his people around the world to gin up these false allegations that will lead to the discrediting of the Mueller Report.
Trump is no more than Putin's puppet.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Own Trump.
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
He will rue the day he ever decided to run for office.
usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)Texin
(2,596 posts)They all do his bidding - or else.
If tRump is doing anything either at the behest of Putin or is directed by him specifically to do something, he's bound to do it. Why would Putin have bothered to "hope" aloud that tRump wouldn't allow anything the two of them discussed secretly in person or by telephone to be brought out into the open. It was a warning not a suggestion.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)Mike,
Please also mention in every post, it's not just Trump, it is the entire House and Senate Republicans that also took tons of money from Russia channeled (white washed) thru the NRA. Tens of millions of dollars in so called "PAC" funding of their individual elections.
That is why the congressional republicans are all so beholden to Trump and back him at every turn. If he goes, they go, and the entire corrupt Republican Party with them in one big flush........
Trump would get obliterated in a New York second if it weren't for the Repubs in the House, and especially the Senate.
They can't let him go down without them getting sucked into vortex.........
Thx
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)As with everything else, it all comes down to his fragile ego and narcissism. Any suggestion that Russia helped him Calle into question his status as a "winner."
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)for help to discredit Mueller, I would say the timing here can't be a coincidence. House calls for impeachment, Putin wants this done ASAP.
Botany
(70,517 posts)... and it will show that the Trump campaign and Russia worked together in order to
steal the 2016 elections. Sooner or later the Mueller report is going to come out and
"they" have to discredit it.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)I've always thought that Putin has something on DJT - it would be interesting to find out what it is. Maybe DJT owes a huge debt with Putin and hasn't the money to pay back or something. I have a feeling we are going to find out. All a bunch of creeps.
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)hence the double down on controlling the pipelines passing through Ukraine. That's what the whole thing was about all along...U.S. oil companies get access to Iranian oil fields and the Russian Arctic, al Saud gets nuclear energy and gets to see the rival Shiaa bombed into nothingness and Putin gets his southern gas pipeline to Europe.
iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)as you described, it's all about power and money $$$
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,190 posts)It's about squelching opposition and the truth.
Upheavals happen every 60-70 years or so. The Civil War established laissez-faire capitalism that wasn't tethered until the Trustbusters and wasn't modified until the Election of 1932 and the New Deal. This is international oligarchs establishing a new system and sandbagging the old, where everything is a resource for the wealthy to make money.
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)More sanctions on Russia can be lifted.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,314 posts)... he would lift sanctions in exchange for election help and keeping kompromat quiet. He can't do that unless the Ukraine invasion is accepted and Mueller discredited.
The nexus for Trump's promises are in Ukraine....
malaise
(269,057 posts)undermine.
Democrats, media and everyone else need to demand the unredacted Mueller Report
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calimary
(81,322 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Did trump promise him he would plus playoffs to Putin to help in the election? Putins losing millions in his pockets is why he wants sanction gone so much.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)I bet dollars to donuts that Trump's last call before that ridiculous escalator ride was getting marching orders from Moscow.
He is a traitor and should be hung for treason (because we ARE at war with Russia in the 21st century and not by the 18th century definition of war in a field lining up and taking turns shooting at each other).
Trump is the worst thing to ever happen to America and its not even close for the title....he lapped the field multiple times over by now...
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)And Rudy liked the former Prosecutor until he didnt. The Prosecutor told him Biden had done nothing wrong,
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Trumps got to knock this one out before impeachment.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)...in January of 2021 when he is no longer in a position that is immune from indictment.
kentuck
(111,103 posts)Knowing what we have learned about Trump in the last three years, we know that he like to project his failing onto others.
When he accuses the Bidens of making money in Ukraine, that is likely what he himself is guilty of doing. He blames others for his own crimes.
Also, I think it is significant that both he and Rudy were discussing matters in Ukraine with Paul Manafort. This was reported a day or two ago here on DU. (I don't have the link at this time)
But, Manafort and "others" were making money off the corruption in Ukraine when the Russian puppets were in charge. They were happy with the Russian prosecutor not prosecuting anyone. They seem to have lost their contacts once the previous prosecutor was fired?
In my opinion, there is much more to this story than what has been reported thus far.