"24% said there's 'almost nothing Trump could do that would cause me to support impeachment'"

[Dennis Donovan]

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This scarily tells you that a chunk of of Trump's base is more loyal to Trump than the USA: "Nearly one-in-four, 24 percent, said there’s “almost nothing Trump could do that would cause me to support impeaching him and removing him from office.” https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/trump-impeachment-poll-support-016403 …


Support for impeaching Trump hits new high
politico.com

8:36 AM - Oct 2, 2019

[Mike 03]

1. Not to sound pollyanna, but I was worried it would be higher, like around 33%.

[jpljr77]

9. Same here. I was actually relieved the number is below 25%. And I'll bet good money that 24% number

was higher just three months ago. I think the tide is turning.

Defiant resignation followed by immediate launch of Trump Media Enterprises inbound.

[Funtatlaguy]

2. What if he paid for an abortion, divorced Melania and gay married Rudy.

[NewJeffCT]

8. Supposedly

some of the National Enquirer stories that were killed were about Trump paying for the abortions of mistresses.

[Funtatlaguy]

13. If only a woman would come forward with proof of that.

[rpannier]

20. Wouldn't matter

They happened before he became a baby Christian.
So all is forgiven

[Mariana]

24. Exactly. nt.

[3catwoman3]

32. He would have to actually perform the abortion himself...

...for there to be any possibility of it mattering, and it would have to have occurred after he (allegedly) became a Christian.

Being forgiven by a supreme being seems to easy an out for having lived a shitty life in which one hurt a lot of people.

[True Dough]

3. One quarter of the American public that has no redeeming qualities

It is SAD (in the words of the immortal Donny J. Drumpf), but at least it's not a higher percentage.

[Farmer-Rick]

4. That's what Hitler counted on too.

The Trump presidency has now morphed into full blown facism. Trump Nazis are ignorant fools much like the dead Nazis our fathers and grandfathers beat in WWII.

[hlthe2b]

5. There was a significant percentage that never accepted Nixon's impeachment either...

including the likes of Hannity, Patrick Buchanan and others... I don't know the exact percentage from polls, but they persisted. And, yes, Nixon technically resigned rather than faced formal impeachment, but the process was what forced him out.

I liken it to those Germans of a certain age that lived through Hitler and NEVER condemned him, even afterward, but continued to deny nearly everything. They were more prevalent, even decades later, than any of us would have imagined.

[rpannier]

21. It was those people that Reagan pandered to

It failed in 76 because Ford had been Nixon's veep and pardoned him
In 80 they flocked to Reagan

[DemocraticSocialist8]

6. Trumpism really is a cult

[Zoonart]

7. One in four Americans has sociopathic tendencies.

He will never loose that 24%.

As per the book "The Sociopath Next Door." In other cultures the ratio is about the same, but these borderline personalities are "nurtured" back to sanity.... not here.

[Funtatlaguy]

14. Racists, sexists, xenophobes, homophobes, psychos, 24%

[Zoonart]

15. Yep.

[Mariana]

25. "The Sociopath Next Door" says it's 4%.

That's one in 25, not one in four.

[Zoonart]

28. Ooops sorry...

misread that. Still pretty high... but not 25%

[Mariana]

44. Most of Trump's supporters aren't sociopaths.

It's important to remember most of them do not believe he's done anything wrong, as a candidate and as president. All those things in the past are forgiven because he's a Christian now. They believe all the stories are fake news. That he's being persecuted because he's a Christian. That the evil Democrats and their allies in the media are out to get him because they want to destroy America. Fox News tells them this. Right wing talk radio tells them this. Their friends tell them this. Their preachers tell them that Trump is God's own chosen president, and that anyone who opposes Trump is against God. And so on.

[meow2u3]

38. IIRC, it's 1 in 4 Americans who have authoritarian tendencies

They grew up that way, taught to obey authority without question from early childhood.

[beachbumbob]

10. I figure its 30% which represents well over half of the GOP voting base

and what the gOP fears if even a trial is allowed to happen. We all know the vindictive nature of hardcore and they have no problem "taking their ball home" and sit out Nov 2020 election/

We got be real about this and know this is the reality of it.

[bullwinkle428]

11. The single genuine thing that Chump has said over this entire period is

the statement about shooting someone on 5th Avenue and not losing any supporters.

[struggle4progress]

12. That's about the level of support Nixon had when he finally resigned

[DeminPennswoods]

22. I believe it is exactly the level of support Nixon had when he resigned

There's a core of 25-30% of Americans on the right who will never change. It's a fact we should just accept.

[dalton99a]

16. They are irredeemable

[MoonRiver]

17. That's his current base.

My guess is that it will sink even lower as more info comes out.

[BootinUp]

18. Enemies of democracy on display. Nt

[TheRealNorth]

41. Yup

Trump could declare himself king and they would rally behind him.

[rpannier]

19. Oh, well. At least we know there are 24 out of 100 that are cultists out there

[TlalocW]

23. Makes sense

That was about the lowest W's approval rating went (27%). One-fourth of the country are implacably republican.

TlalocW

[Johonny]

26. Just wait until the recession hits full steam

[Claritie Pixie]

27. They're a lost cause and a small minority.

We must understand that millions of Americans are amoral losers who will never be reformed. So be it.

[empedocles]

29. It's the next 14-16%, above the stuckish 24%, that counts to move this process ahead.

That part is moving in the right direction. Will move more with still more trump news, - and the off year elections helping, and the shadow of 2020.

[MissMillie]

30. They say they love their country

but yet they defend their man against everything this country stands for

[Newest Reality]

31. Psych...

If you accept the premise that most people run on some form of autopilot, (similar to being able to tie a shoe or ride a bike automatically) then it makes sense that, once people are in a certain mindset, it can become an unconscious pattern and choice is even questionable in that case. This applies across the board.

It becomes obvious when you note your own thought patterns and habits. The term comfort zone describes it well. What happens when you are out of that comfort zone or something unexpected happens, (going from known to unknown rapidly)? How often does the voice in your head repeat the same ideas and thoughts? This is not about the good or bad, or right or wrong of it, initially. It is about noting the process. The process is the container for the contents and they vary.

Since a personality is a pattern that is maintained by reinforcement based on stored past experiences that people are addicted to by way of dopamine and other responses, changing the sum total of those patterns is most always going to feel uncomfortable, dangerous, unfamiliar and even frightening. Hence, the tendency to listen to the doctrines of the ingrained pattern and return to what feels like "normal" again.

We all can investigate that and, when we admit it and test it out regarding our own views, biases, reactions and behaviors, (some people are more adaptable and understand it intuitively or are the "thrill seeker type" for the Adrenalin rush) then it is easier to move from a judgemental model and ridicule to understanding, which just might be more helpful in the long-run.

The changes we expect other people to make require some insight, effort and openness to change along with the ability to endure and welcome the discomfort of real and demonstrable change. How many people could change like that when the same old same old seems safer, more secure and has its chemical rewards and mental cohesiveness?

It can be said that people have a lot invested in maintaining their persona, it is an ongoing process, and that priority can even lead to suffering and negative behaviors if they maintain it because, it is better than the discomfort of what could be conceived of as "no longer feeling like you" or, in an Eastern sense, no actually being anything but a conceptual aggregation, i.e., nothing.

[Wounded Bear]

33. "Almost nothing?"

Maybe there is hope, yet.

[BootinUp]

48. I giggle uncontrollably

At that scene every time.

[maxrandb]

34. That's equal to the percentage of people that suck Hate Radio into their asses 24/7

Plus the 10-15% that are suckered by the relentless Hate Radio memes that squirrel their way into legitimate news organizations.

But that's right Dems..."we should just ignore Hate Radio"

[regnaD kciN]

35. About the same percentage as those who supported Nixon to the bitter end...

There’s a certain percentage of voters (IMO, larger on the right than the left, but that might just be my anecdotal opinion) for whom ideology is paramount and nothing else matters.

[maxrandb]

36. That's also the percentage of Americans

that would send their preteen daughters to a sleepover with Epstein and Donnie Shit for Brains.

They are beyond giving one single solitary fuck about.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

37. That's about same percentage that continued to support Nixon

after the "smoking gun" tape was released proving he was in on the Watergate cover-up. To this day there are people who think he was a great man who was framed. Some of them are Trump supporters, like Roger Stone, who has a tattoo of Nixon on his back. For whatever reason, some people just can't be convinced. But you don't win elections with 25%, or which Nixon knew. So did the GOP, which is why most of them abandoned him.

[Sneederbunk]

39. Trump can always count on the Deplorables.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. Thankfully Ukraine was enough for many more.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. Guess they got their answer - 24% can be brainwashed.

[fescuerescue]

45. That's the nature of a base

They look at his crimes. Then they look at who is running against him. They look at who the VP is.

And the base decides that while his crimes vary from "nothing" to "extremely serious", even "extremely serious" is less bad than his Presidential Opponents or his Vice President.

Base's are real. And Republicans aren't the only ones that have them.

[Hortensis]

46. W's support dropped into the low 20s in the last year, then

in the last days, when half of his most intransigent authoritarian supporters were forced to admit they'd backed a "loser," it dropped briefly to the low teens. Nothing W actually did as president shook the support of that worst, most dangerous half of his conservative supporters, though -- it was failing at it that finally caused them to walk away.

[floppyboo]

47. People that steadfast in never changing their minds

must have a tendency to cling to authority. If someone besides Trump can assert greater authority, they'll go for that.
Poor education and religion are recipes for disaster, IMO.

[uponit7771]

49. *** 24% is Hitler and Nixon polling numbers !!! ***