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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf I am hearing this right?
Ukraine will surrender to Russia, in order for Trump to investigate his enemies? That is really scary to even think about!
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If I am hearing this right? (Original Post)
imanamerican63
Oct 2019
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onenote
(42,714 posts)1. Who are you hearing this from
imanamerican63
(13,800 posts)3. I heard this from a comment made in a resturant tonight.
I did not know if this was true? I figured DUers would set me straight. I won't put it past Trump to pull this stunt!
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)4. The news is that Ukraine will accept the
Steinmeier Formula' which which will see Ukrainian defenders withdraw from the battlefront in Donbas and Russian invaders allowed to remain.
7. Short version...
Trump withheld defense necessary military equipment, enabling Russia to run "Crimea II" in an area called Donbas.
Ukraine is now moving ahead in a deal with Russia to ratchet things down.
Net - the "Ukrainian Crisis" that precipitated the Sanctions has been resolved among that participants.
So...no need for Sanctions.
*poof* Russian money now trapped in Russia gets liberated.
Trump withheld defense necessary military equipment, enabling Russia to run "Crimea II" in an area called Donbas.
Ukraine is now moving ahead in a deal with Russia to ratchet things down.
Net - the "Ukrainian Crisis" that precipitated the Sanctions has been resolved among that participants.
So...no need for Sanctions.
*poof* Russian money now trapped in Russia gets liberated.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212533301
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212533371
Nevermypresident
(781 posts)2. "Disaster for Ukraine"
empedocles
(15,751 posts)5. precable international maneuvers
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)6. Everything Trump touches turns to shit.
Sorry Ukraine but seems like you invited this one.