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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 08:36 AM Sep 2019

Misleading Trump tweet claims Ukraine whistleblower complaint "not holding up"

https://www.axios.com/trump-tweet-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint-439e11a9-8f26-4bdb-95fe-c695a88b16e4.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

President Trump tweeted Monday that the Ukraine whistleblower's complaint is "mostly" about his call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and that its account of the call is "a fraud" — 2 claims disproven by both the complaint itself and the memo of the call released by the White House.

"The Fake Whistleblower complaint is not holding up. It is mostly about the call to the Ukrainian President which, in the name of transparency, I immediately released to Congress & the public. The Whistleblower knew almost nothing, its 2ND HAND description of the call is a fraud!"


Reality check
The call only encompasses one of four sections of the whistleblower's complaint. The other sections allege that the Trump administration tried to hide Trump's call with Zelensky — and others like it — in a separate computer system for classified information and discuss the events leading up to the July 25 Zelensky call.

The complaint's section about the call is sourced to "multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call." It also includes 3 specific allegations about the call:

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the business dealings of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, in Ukraine.

Trump asked Zelensky for help locating servers that could indicate that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election actually originated Ukraine, an allegation that originated in far-right conspiracy theories.

Trump said that Zelensky should meet or speak with his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General Bill Barr to discuss these matters further.


Despite not having firsthand knowledge of the call, these 3 claims in the whistleblower's complaint were verified by the White House's release of the memo summarizing the Trump-Zelensky call.

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Misleading Trump tweet claims Ukraine whistleblower complaint "not holding up" (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 OP
What if the Dems would I have just said, everything was in dewsgirl Sep 2019 #1
Is Linda Tripp your idea of a "whistleblower"? oasis Sep 2019 #3
Well no. I just meant there overall strategy. dewsgirl Sep 2019 #4
Is he... Newest Reality Sep 2019 #2
'Misleading' trump claims????????? empedocles Sep 2019 #5

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
1. What if the Dems would I have just said, everything was in
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 08:40 AM
Sep 2019

Monica's head and she was a girl with a crush? Linda Tripp didn't see anything. I wonder how well that would have held up?

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. Is he...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 08:43 AM
Sep 2019

Is he going to keep playing, repeat a lie over and over and people will believe it? That's an old and tired tactic and overusing it like that just makes it stand out more. It is great to see him ruining and old propaganda ploy.

It should be pointed out, again and again, that the repetition of lies does not make them true. Every tactic needs to be brought to forefront and pointed out again and again. Perhaps repeating that kind of truth will get more people to believe it.

The point is to pollute public opinion, which is all he can accomplish with this. Legally, those statements only make it worse for him.

Give him more rope!

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