??? "The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications..."

[garybeck]

This is from CNN:

The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications that partly prompted the complaint to the inspector general, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Thursday. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.

???
if he/she didn't have direct knowledge, what are we looking at? whistleblower hearsay?

and how does knowledge of communications "partly" prompt someone to do something?

from CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-ukraine-09-24-2019/h_d06dbee5cbade1329751397bc46f7166

[lettucebe]

1. And they know this how?

Seriously, reporting on the whistleblower without hearing from or seeing the complaint is little sketchy

[Owl]

12. I agree. Seems to be all rumors at present.

[FBaggins]

2. Doesn't mean that he/she doesn't know what happened

Could have been a recording or transcript... or interview of someone who did have direct knowledge.

[SlogginThroughIt]

3. we are being played

[defacto7]

8. That's what I've been thinking for a while now.

[garybeck]

20. so you think this whole thing is a distraction/fabrication? N/t

[LovingA2andMI]

4. This Is All That Matters.....

Link to tweet

Period! Not spin heads all over the damn place, so-called "news" reports.

[get the red out]

5. I remember

when the NY Times reassured us just before the 2016 election that there was no way Trump accepted help from Putin. The media isn't always correct. I don't completely trust anything yet.

[woodsprite]

9. I certainly don't trust the "transcript" he's going to release tomorrow.

Barr is probably into fiction writing just like his daddy was.

[GusBob]

14. based on this report I'm thinking the phone call is only part of the puzzle

the WB has other information

[ritapria]

6. I Pray Trump isn't setting us up

[jaysunb]

7. Straight Bullshit n/t

[GusBob]

10. Hmmm its puzzling to say the least

"partly prompted"
"concerns came in part"
"information not obtained during the course of their work"
"details have played a role"

you have to read between the lines but it sounds like the communications were only part of the puzzle

maybe its more like a math equation....he had information that didn't add up and he had to solve for x

[lagomorph777]

24. Part of the complaint is not based on firsthand knowledge...sooo...part of it is?

Sounds like some desperate handwaving there.

[GusBob]

25. Speculating here, but yeah, he had direct knowledge of some other information

which was confirmed when he heard about the communication ( which he had no direct knowledge of)

[Poiuyt]

11. Pelosi is too cautious to act without all the facts

[spanone]

13. Makes no sense....trump has said that this week. NO ONE ELSE. it's called muddying the water.

Why would the whistleblower want to talk to Schiff's committee?

[GusBob]

16. Timing is strange

Trump said he would release the transcript

WB says he will talk to committee

I think he has information outside of the phone call that burns DT

[ffr]

15. Then why is the whistleblower willing to come before congress? This sounds like gaslighting 101.

Fuck CNN!

[dawg day]

17. The IG said credible and urgent

But what the heck, let's see the complaint and then we can all decide for ourselves!

[Vinca]

18. So say a person is in a bar sitting next to people from the White House inner sanctum and

hears a conversation about the extortion phone call Trump made to the Ukrainian president. Similar to the conversation heard by the reporter during one of the events surrounding the Mueller indictments. Should they report it and be taken seriously? I think so. I suspect it's someone in the intelligence community who might have second hand knowledge. It could be Dan Coates reporting what an underling told him. If the IG thinks it's urgent, it's urgent.

[garybeck]

21. the problem there is, if it's just something someone heard, outside of their job duties,

it's just another he-said, she-said

[LanternWaste]

22. A formal request to speak before both chambers elevates it above that of he-said-she-said.

[lapfog_1]

19. DNI Coates would have had "people" to listen in

multiple people... transcripts... recordings...

he is my favorite choice for this version of "deep throat"

[Claritie Pixie]

23. This is Guiliani and Fox News speak. They've been saying this about the whistleblower.

It's not to be taken seriously.

[FakeNoose]

26. That's probably what the acting DNI said, not the whistleblower

Don't forget that Dan Coats and Sue Gordon are gone, and the new guy Joseph Maguire is a Chump toadie.

I'm sure he's in way over his head because he's brand new at his job as acting DNI. Meanwhile Chump, Barr, Miller and everyone else are telling him what to say to the press. I'd take all this with a grain of salt.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. The IG wouldn't have taken the complaint seriously

and referred it to the DNI if there wasn't a "serious, urgent concern."

[jcgoldie]

28. "An official briefed on the matter"

ie someone in the white house.

[Hortensis]

29. One thing we should have confidence in: That the whistleblower

knowingly, heroically put him or herself in serious danger, perhaps career-ending, perhaps devastating to freedom, family, life as they knew it.

Christine Blasey-Ford and her family are still in hiding, unable to go home or return to their work. Friends have received serious threats from people of great power. One of Trump's options is to frame this whistleblower under the espionage act, described by as federal prosecutor as being "in a world of trouble!," which could result in decades in prison.

[jpljr77]

30. This. Will. Blow. Up. In. Our. Faces. AGAIN. Fucking beat him in Nov. 2020, there is no other path.