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(15,143 posts)This is HUGE! We don't want to see the stupid transcript. With Sharpie in hand, that can be altered. But testimony from the whistle blower? That would be big news.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)NOW.
leftieNanner
(15,143 posts)And from what I understand, there's more in this whistle blower complaint than just one phone call. To whom did The Orange One make a "promise"? Was this connected to his requesting a list of the spies we had placed in the Kremlin?
It's all coming out now! YIPPEEEE!
H2O Man
(73,590 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)Backseat Driver
(4,394 posts)consequences of impeachment for machievellian Pence as both the re-enforcer of the extortion of threat. There's no way he should EVER acquire the Office of the President. I'd also like DT's other messengers and obstructors removed and dis-Barred, tried, and jailed, and any future benefits of their offices forfeited, for their parts, all possible though probably not probable, if both are removed.
Transcript? Bleh: "But if I really say it; the radio won't play it; unless I lay it between the lines..."
Nevermind all that: He sent and encouraged his ring-kissing goons!
And they have obstructed and disrupted the business and oversight in the co-equal branches of American government, corrupted by GOP members drunk on dreams of power and corporate money.
How can that possibly be reflective of their oaths to uphold the Constitutional rule of law and values??? How?
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)YOU FUCKING TRAITOR!
calimary
(81,435 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)I count Moscow Mitch, Leningrad Lindsay in the "whores" category. Pence is more of a "yes" man.
calimary
(81,435 posts)Thats trumps boy, pence.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)EleanorR
(2,393 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,500 posts)This was more than withholding aid to get an investigation on Hunter Biden.
friend of m and j
(220 posts)Extorting a foreign power to help Trump win an election has been "normalized" by Trump. I don't think that the corrupt act that we know of would be considered a "urgent concern" by the Inspector General.
There has to be more in that whistle blower report than just a phone call by Trump. The news today that the Whistle blower has contacted the Intelligence Committee saying he/she wants to testify. Hopefully he/she will answer questions about other abuses of power by Trump.
If the rumors about Trump wanting a list of undercover US agents in Russia are true and that comes out in the upcoming hearings it may be evidence of Trump committing treason. If he were convicted of treason the penalty for treason is "is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000;"
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)Since he has already broken the law by not sending the complaint to the Intel Committee as required by law.
He already has an obstruction of justice charge against him. How much more is he willing to gamble for Donald Trump??
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Poiuyt
(18,130 posts)We know who donald trump is. Its time to let the world know who WE are.
- Biden just now. The quote of the week!
Zambero
(8,965 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)I think it was clear they were a source for the WaPo reporting. That would mean they knew about the WB complaint if they weren't that person.
Will Know Soon!
l wonder if they'll try to disguise the WB like they sometimes do when getting testimony from intel agents.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Who needs to do the right thing.
Everything Trump is not.
Marcuse
(7,504 posts)AllyCat
(16,215 posts)panfluteman
(2,065 posts)tblue37
(65,483 posts)skip fox
(19,359 posts)to contact the Committee?
Botany
(70,566 posts)budkin
(6,713 posts)Finally, the pieces are moving!
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)The whistleblower is probably sick and tired of the MF lying about the Ukraine phone call and the MSM lapping it up without question. Stay safe patriot whistleblower.
Looking forward to StarfishSaver weighing in on this.
RobertDevereaux
(1,858 posts)RobertDevereaux
(1,858 posts)Senate Intelligence Vice Chairman Mark Warner (D-Va.) "told reporters that the whistleblowers counsel has also reached out" to his committee, per the New York Times' Catie Edmondson.
Fan of Da Bearse
(75 posts)Isn't that the same guy who illegally blocked the testimony to Congress in the first place?
reACTIONary
(5,771 posts)... the agency head is supposed to pass the complaint to congress AND inform the whistle blower that s/he can contact congress and how to do it. So this request is something of a strategic dare. They are staying within the bounds of the law and daring the director to, once again, step outside of the bounds. Sort of like opening the ports on a listing ship.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,107 posts)Trump releasing the transcript is to get out in front of this.
ecstatic
(32,727 posts)was his attempt to get out in front. The problem is, he's used the same sorry ass routine too many times. I would have been apoplectic if Democrats and the media fell for it again.
jb5150
(1,182 posts)Melania!
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)FakeNoose
(32,718 posts)The whistleblower is obviously a patriot, and he or she sees no benefit in saving Chump's butt. If the whistleblower has already left government employment, that's all the better!
I just hope they are careful to preserve anonymity to protect the person. Otherwise nobody will ever stick their neck out again for this whistleblower program.
grumpyduck
(6,246 posts)to nothing? Like the Mueller report and hearing, the Kavanaugh and Barr hearings, the Lewandowski hearing, and many others?
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)I REALLY hope we are both SO wrong!
Meadowoak
(5,556 posts)And suddenly, Trump is willing to hand over the transcripts. Trump is going down and he knows it.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)The Whistle-blower is Dan Coats or his Deputy who resigned with him.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Can trump block this person from testifying?
LudwigPastorius
(9,166 posts)...a mid-level agent whose job it is to monitor the calls of foreign leaders.
If this scenario is true, there may be another set of tapes besides the ones recorded by the White House.
Getting them could prove to be difficult though, as I'm sure that any House Judiciary Committee subpoena would be refused by the White House under the guise of 'executive privilege'.
SWBTATTReg
(22,156 posts)crap and so forth, testifying to Congress/The House of Rep.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Or end up being murdered like Epstein was, and do anything to stop them. Trump will say they're liars and threaten them using Barr, again.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)end up "silenced" or made an "offer he can't refuse"...
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,400 posts)Has there ever been official confirmation by anybody that the whistleblower complaint is, in fact, about Ukraine? Or is that still just the conclusion based on 'preponderance of evidence'?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)This might be an ADDITIONAL gigantic scandal.
JCMach1
(27,569 posts)ecstatic
(32,727 posts)LOCK THEM UP!
Hekate
(90,773 posts)UTUSN
(70,725 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)I've been saying all along, through all the ridiculous hyperbolic attacks on speaker Pelosi that when the time was right, and the best chance for results would be supported by evidence, and when it made the most sense.. she'd make her move.
Hope all those of lessor faith in our House Speaker chime in now.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)which means by him trying to prevent the whistleblower from going before Congress telling their story, he knows it's a lot more then the phone call. I fear for their safety with trump, Putin, and Barr involved.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...announced this so quickly without knowing what it's about.
For all we know the Whistle is going to tell them it's not the way it's being described and the wholer thing ends in another big poof.
Gotta control the roll-out.
jcgoldie
(11,638 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Just feel we've been in this position before with the Mueller investigation.
Schiff is one of our best.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)fuck 'em...
Viz
(56 posts)Whistle blower is not a Ukrainian Whistle blower....but a high level member of the US Intelligence Community and possibly a Republican appointee from the Trump Executive Branch whose full report we have yet to see, stalled by a crooked Attorney General.
Quiet a different framing.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)The American people are behind the Dems. The corruption has gone on long enough.
Karadeniz
(22,563 posts)gibraltar72
(7,508 posts)warmfeet
(3,321 posts)They claim to be the party of law and order. In reality, they are a national crime syndicate.