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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:07 PM Sep 2019

School under fire for placing autistic student's desk in bathroom stall

A middle school in Washington is coming under fire after staff placed the desk of an 11-year-old boy with autism in a bathroom, CNN reports. According to the network, the boy’s desk was moved after his mother, Danielle Goodwin, told staff at the Whatcom Middle School in Bellingham that her son, who also has an auto immune disorder, worked better in quiet surroundings.

"I was stunned," Goodwin told a CNN affiliate last week. "I was so shocked I just took the picture because I didn't believe what I was seeing." Goodwin in a Facebook post last Thursday shared an image of her son standing in the bathroom next to his desk and chair. Goodwin said in the post, which had racked up over 15,000 reactions as of Sunday afternoon, that his teacher “also provided a camping mat and pillow for him to nap” on the bathroom floor.

In a statement shared on the Bellingham Public Schools website on Friday, Superintendent Greg Baker wrote that officials “have been fact-finding in order to ensure we understand what occurred; that work continues. This current situation is an example of staff trying to seek a solution to temporarily repurpose a room. To our knowledge, the room had been used as storage, not as an active restroom,” he also wrote.

“We are all probably aware that state funding for schools is limited, particularly with regards to construction, and thus schools often have limited space to meet students’ instructional and social-emotional needs,” he wrote. “We are always looking for creative ways to best use our facilities to meet students’ needs.” He went on to write that his staff is “incredibly skilled, compassionate and dedicated,” but added that “like all of us, including myself, our staff are not perfect.”



https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/462517-washington-school-under-fire-for-placing-autistic-students-desk

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School under fire for placing autistic student's desk in bathroom stall (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2019 OP
It sure doesn't look like a storage room to me. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #1
So what is the school supposed to do? Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #2
There should be a resource room with a special education teacher, and small load of students. salin Sep 2019 #3
Seriously?? Nothing other then a bathroom??? a kennedy Sep 2019 #4
If all they had was an unused restroom Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #14
Your ableist privilege is what is acceptable obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #23
And if there is money? Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #26
In my former school the only places that would meet the requirements Jake Stern Sep 2019 #35
I hear that....oh no money to upgrade our schools..... a kennedy Sep 2019 #36
Should they block off the library from other students for the day so he can have a quiet area? Jake Stern Sep 2019 #38
I'M SORRY NOT A RESTROOM.....NOT EVER. a kennedy Sep 2019 #39
"My kids had classes in portable trailers" left-of-center2012 Sep 2019 #5
An UNUSED bathroom they were using for storage Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #15
THey put his desk next to a toilet, period obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #24
Are you OK with your kid put into a bathroom to study? left-of-center2012 Sep 2019 #40
If my kid required absolute quiet and it's all they had, yes Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #42
there is a difference between those 2 things JI7 Sep 2019 #6
If it's ALL they have, it's all they have Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #16
they asked if they can use the library and were told no JI7 Sep 2019 #17
The library is NOT a quiet place Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #21
I think you are making what should be a good point in a very flawed manner. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #27
Of course it's a systemic problem Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #28
I agree with you, overall. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #30
Partition an area in the classroom, perhaps? missingthebigdog Sep 2019 #8
Not the library essme Sep 2019 #13
Christ, this place. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #9
My sentiments exactly. Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #19
Yes the sadistic teachers did this as a vendetta Srkdqltr Sep 2019 #31
Yeah, cause teachers live like paupers cause they HATE kids Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Sep 2019 #37
How would you like your boss to put you next to where you shit? obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #20
My boss would be pissed because I didn't read the article Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #22
why couldn't he use the library ? JI7 Sep 2019 #7
School libraries are not quiet anymore essme Sep 2019 #12
This is messed up RainCaster Sep 2019 #10
Is this to "punish " the boy for being a problem for the school? Srkdqltr Sep 2019 #11
that's how it seems to me JI7 Sep 2019 #18
Yes, and in both DU threads people are excusing it obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #25
After reading the story... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #29
Also... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #32
I wouldn't blame the kid for going full Milton on the school. Initech Sep 2019 #33
In my elementary school, back in the 1950s, MineralMan Sep 2019 #41

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
2. So what is the school supposed to do?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:15 PM
Sep 2019

If the boy needs a private place, and they have nothing else, why vilify them? My kids had classes in portable trailers. There were no extra rooms.

If this is all they have to try to accommodate him, at least they are trying.

salin

(48,955 posts)
3. There should be a resource room with a special education teacher, and small load of students.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:39 PM
Sep 2019

I was a school academic administrator (who also taught a class or two a semester in the last several years) until 5 years ago. I think "tax cut/slash public funding" era has taken a big bite out of many public schools' budgets - AND an atmosphere of cutting regulation = and attitude of e don't have to plan to provide services/accommodations (unless challenged - and not always then) + an attitude of late that people who are different (race, gender, religious beliefs, abilities) don't need to be considered as discriminated against b/c "that's just PC" (and doesn't really have to be addressed.) A trifecta of permission to slide backwards in serving kids.

I have worked in tough circumstances - and we found ways to accommodate. This seems less like an accommodation, and more like making a point/statement to parents and students who dare to ask for accommodations (even when written into the law) via humiliation as an example/deterrent to requesting accommodations. Not unlike Trump's increasingly cruel border policies being - admittedly cruel - as a strategy to prevent future immigration.

a kennedy

(29,710 posts)
4. Seriously?? Nothing other then a bathroom???
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:44 PM
Sep 2019
and usually I only save my 3 angry smilies for tRump. This is so unbelievable and unacceptable.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
14. If all they had was an unused restroom
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:27 PM
Sep 2019

At least they tried. Not all of went to rich schools. Ours was so poor it was ridiculous. I find your privalege unacceptable.

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
23. Your ableist privilege is what is acceptable
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:36 PM
Sep 2019

Putting a kid that is probably already singled out into a bathrom, where his desk is next to a toilet. You know, where people pee and shit. Unacceptable. Your employer would never do that to you, and you wouldn't allow it if they did.

You refit a closet, you bring in the parent and discuss what you can do, you do not put them kid next to a toilet. You do not do that to their self worth.

Check your own privilege.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
26. And if there is money?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:42 PM
Sep 2019

Oh yes, let's live in fantasy land.

My employer puts me in Level A and gas me sample shit that kills people dead in seconds.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
35. In my former school the only places that would meet the requirements
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:19 PM
Sep 2019

were an equipment closet or the former boiler room/basement.

The problem is that many of these parents who demand schools to cater to their child's every quirk are frequently the same ones that vote down bond issues or raises to property taxes.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
38. Should they block off the library from other students for the day so he can have a quiet area?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:40 PM
Sep 2019

In the school I worked at even the faculty lounge was re-purposed as extra classroom space.

If that's the only place with absolute quiet like he seeks then what else are they supposed to do?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
42. If my kid required absolute quiet and it's all they had, yes
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 01:30 PM
Sep 2019

Obviously if there were options I would prefer something else. However, in an age where teachers routinely have 35 to 40 kids per classroom and teach in portable trailers with limited heat no air conditioning and leaking roofs, i would not expect more than a broom closet.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
16. If it's ALL they have, it's all they have
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:31 PM
Sep 2019

Did you go to school in a poor area? I did. Not everyone has unlimited resources. It was an unused bathroom they used for storage so they repurposed it and let him have it.

The article clearly states they don't have a free room.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
21. The library is NOT a quiet place
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:35 PM
Sep 2019

And is used constantly. So they are supposed to shut it down for the rest of the school? It's not an option.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
27. I think you are making what should be a good point in a very flawed manner.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:46 PM
Sep 2019

Far too many schools don’t have the resources to handle what they have. In many areas the strain is unbelievable. Such pressure can lead to poor decisions even if the intentions weren’t bad. Similarly, such pressure and stress can also lead to a shift in one’s ethical and moral compass. This is a systemic problem.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
28. Of course it's a systemic problem
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:50 PM
Sep 2019

And the article clearly said they had NO room and NO budget. All these people attributing sadistic and revenge motives into the teachers should go check themselves. When you have no other way you do what you can with what you have. I don't know too many teachers who are in it because fucking with kids gets them off.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
30. I agree with you, overall.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:01 PM
Sep 2019

It’s just a bad idea to park the kid next to a shitter. A toilet looks like a toilet whether it’s been used in the last hour or not. You at least discuss it with the mother beforehand.

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)
8. Partition an area in the classroom, perhaps?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:53 PM
Sep 2019

Or repurpose a teacher lounge, or a coaches’ office, or a section of the library. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that a bathroom was the only possible option.

Just for the sake of argument, let’s assume it was the only option. Don’t you think it would have been more appropriate to remove the plumbing and actually convert it into study space?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
19. My sentiments exactly.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:34 PM
Sep 2019

Resource poor districts do what they can. Why does everyone have to put evil intent on this? Pisses me off because my parents were teachers in a poor district and we qualified for food stamps.

Fucking making it sound like the sadistic teachers did this as a vendetta when they said they had no room

Srkdqltr

(6,323 posts)
31. Yes the sadistic teachers did this as a vendetta
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:08 PM
Sep 2019

He and his mother caused a problem so they did the worst thing they could think of to make the kid go away.. or t punish him for being a problem

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
34. Yeah, cause teachers live like paupers cause they HATE kids
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:21 PM
Sep 2019

Especially the ones that need extra help. In fact, those sick fucks are willing to work TWO jobs just for the chance to fuck with disabled children

Response to Srkdqltr (Reply #31)

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
20. How would you like your boss to put you next to where you shit?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:34 PM
Sep 2019

Liyterally, place your desk right next to a TOILET.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
22. My boss would be pissed because I didn't read the article
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:36 PM
Sep 2019

And didn't bother to see that this was an unused bathroom they had been using for storage and repurposed.

essme

(1,207 posts)
12. School libraries are not quiet anymore
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:09 PM
Sep 2019

They can be noisier than a classroom, easily.

I am a librarian in a school of over 1200 students (middle school)....from 7:00 AM until 3:00 PM it can be a zoo! I love it--- and I consider myself a teacher- librarian.

Srkdqltr

(6,323 posts)
11. Is this to "punish " the boy for being a problem for the school?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:05 PM
Sep 2019

That is what I am seeing.. he causes a problem for the school so lets settle it in the worse possible way than say .. we are doing something... Sadistic fools.

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
25. Yes, and in both DU threads people are excusing it
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:40 PM
Sep 2019

And, in REALLY ableist privileged ways. It is really appalling.

Mike Nelson

(9,968 posts)
29. After reading the story...
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:59 PM
Sep 2019

... I changed my opinion. What's important is what works for this young man. The problem is the lack of communication between the education staff and parents... and what in the world was his picture doing on Facebook?

Mike Nelson

(9,968 posts)
32. Also...
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:10 PM
Sep 2019

... I assume he has a 1x1 assistant or staff to supervise. No student can be unsupervised... especially a special needs student.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
41. In my elementary school, back in the 1950s,
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 10:35 AM
Sep 2019

the school was an old building. Unruly children were sent to sit in the "cloakroom" that was a hallway-like room in every classroom in the building. A chair was in there, so the offender would sit by him or herself in that room, which always smelled of childhood sweat, lunches in paper bags, and some unidentifiable smells.

How do I know this? From time to time, I was deemed to be one of those unruly children, and got to sit in there. The benefit? You could still hear the teacher, and there were snacks.

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