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Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:34 PM Sep 2019

GOP: Party of "Borrow and spend"

... worse than tax and spend accusers ever imagined ... at least Democrats wanted to be sure we could pay for deficits over time.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/index.html

Washington (CNN Business)The US budget deficit widened to $1.067 trillion for the first 11 months of the fiscal year, an increase of 19% over this time last year, the Treasury Department reported Thursday.
The current shortfall exceeds the full-year deficit for fiscal 2018, which was $898 billion.
President Donald Trump, who promised during the 2016 campaign to eliminate the federal debt, has instead overseen a dramatic increase in deficits.
The White House's Office of Management and Budget has predicted that the deficit will exceed $1 trillion for the entire fiscal year, which ends on September 30. On Monday, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the federal deficit had surpassed $1 trillion in the first 11 months of fiscal 2019, according to its budget review.

The last time the gap was that big was in 2012, in the aftermath of the financial crisis.
A number of factors are driving the US deficit increase, including the $1.5 trillion tax cuts signed into law by Trump in 2017 along with a massive spending package passed by Congress.
The deficit is expected to swell to $960 billion in fiscal 2019, according to the CBO's latest report, and average $1.2 trillion in each of the next 10 years. The CBO raised its forecast for this year's deficit by $63 billion after Trump signed into law a bipartisan two-year budget deal over the summer.

In August, Congress agreed to a deal that would raise spending by an additional $320 billion over the next two years and suspended the debt ceiling through mid-2021.
The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that the 2017 tax cuts combined with new spending by Congress will add more than $4.1 trillion to the federal debt by 2029.


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Dagstead Bumwood

(3,642 posts)
1. With a Democrat in the White House again
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:39 PM
Sep 2019

They'll suddenly see the light and scream for fiscal responsibility from the mountain tops, preferably in the form of draconian cuts to social programs. Hallelujah, they're healed!

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
4. Yes, as usual Dems will have to clean up the theft by repubs
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:57 PM
Sep 2019

Well we need to fucking remind our fellow citizens of this ... ask them the question ... how were your finances under Clinton? How were they under W? How under Obama? How under trump? If they can't see the truth in their own lives, then there is no use.

SWBTATTReg

(22,143 posts)
5. Yes, they'll borrow and spend, on someone's dime. Just watch, they are already retiring in droves,
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:11 PM
Sep 2019

taking fancy jobs in the lobbying field while pulling down $millions (and of course golfing, and figuring out ways to further the tax payers). And what has been said recently by any repugs, other than cutting entitlement spending to rein in this borrowing on their part (while receiving less, a sneaky way of forcing middle class Americans to pay for the bills).

And what's funny about it, is that anyone saving money or investing money in Treasuries, etc., in effect, w/ your taxes, you are paying yourself that interest you receive from owning the treasury bonds.

Most of us here on DU know that Rump is crying out loud because he wants the interest rates lowered more. And, the only reason rump wants interest rates lowered, is that his loans are obviously tailored to a LIBOR rate (London rate) or similar, and he's being, again, totally personal, and not from the FED's viewpoint (no, doesn't need to be yet). My (IMHO) thinking is that interest rates should be allowed to raise somewhat, after all, a lot of us receive interest on our savings, etc., and interest rates have been ridiculously low (on our savings, etc.).
I think a lot of us would welcome this.

Martin Eden

(12,871 posts)
9. Exactly.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:33 PM
Sep 2019

Their "starve the beast" strategy to defund the social programs they want to kill requires huge budget deficits.

Tax cuts reward their rich campaign contributors while creating deficits so they can rail against "runaway spending" and push for cuts in SS & Medicare.

Republicans are not fiscal conservatives; they are fiscal saboteurs.

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