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applegrove

(118,718 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:32 PM Sep 2019

Special Election Results (Tonight)

Special Election Results

September 10, 2019 at 7:15 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 7 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/09/10/special-election-results-2/

"SNIP......

Polls close at 7:30 p.m. ET for the special elections in North Carolina’s 9th and 3rd congressional districts.

Politico is tracking results as the come in.

.....SNIP"

I'm hyped - are you?

I will update thread.



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/10/north-carolina-special-election-1488508

"SNIP....

Democrat Dan McCready and Republican Dan Bishop spent Election Day hunting for votes that could tip a razor-close race in Charlotte and its suburbs, home to a majority of voters in the 9th Congressional District. McCready told supporters Tuesday morning that the race is “really close” — but that a victory would “send a shock wave across this entire country.”

......

There is also a special election in North Carolina’s 3rd District on Tuesday, where Republican Greg Murphy and Democrat Allen Thomas are competing to succeed the late GOP Rep. Walter Jones, who died earlier this year. But that heavily Republican district has attracted far less attention — and money — than the Bishop-McCready race.

.....SNIP"



POLITICO UPDATES:

https://www.politico.com/election-results/2019/north-carolina/special-election/sept-10/

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Special Election Results (Tonight) (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2019 OP
Marking so I can check back in underpants Sep 2019 #1
THANK YOU!!! spanone Sep 2019 #2
Thank you democrank Sep 2019 #3
Thanks... sheshe2 Sep 2019 #4
Is the Dem a chance? brettdale Sep 2019 #5
McCready has a chance in the 9th. I don't think Thomas has a chance in the 3rd. N/T applegrove Sep 2019 #6
I don't think Thomas has a chance in the 3rd. LenaBaby61 Sep 2019 #8
Right now: applegrove Sep 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove Sep 2019 #9
8:31pm - McCready up 6,100 votes. 6.3% Roland99 Sep 2019 #10
Thanks. I'm getting different numbers than you. applegrove Sep 2019 #11
Please let this be an uspet Legends303 Sep 2019 #12
Crossing my fingers. applegrove Sep 2019 #15
8:40 applegrove Sep 2019 #13
thanks for this thread and updates! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #14
Only 1800 vote lead. 34% reporting Roland99 Sep 2019 #16
Gah looks like Bishop made up most from Union County than 2018 Legends303 Sep 2019 #17
Yeah .... LenaBaby61 Sep 2019 #18
McCready is overperforming in Mecklenburg - This is why I donate blm Sep 2019 #19
Only 14% in from Mecklenburg grantcart Sep 2019 #24
9:07 applegrove Sep 2019 #20
Dam it os close. applegrove Sep 2019 #21
55% and same spread Roland99 Sep 2019 #22
58% and Bishop up 900votes Roland99 Sep 2019 #23
Damn....... a kennedy Sep 2019 #25
Too close to call still i would say. applegrove Sep 2019 #28
Look at the counties Union is in Mecklenburg only 28% in grantcart Sep 2019 #30
Did you hear they had a fire in Mecklenburg??? I think it was mentioned on Rachel's show. a kennedy Sep 2019 #44
1 precinct had a problem but I think it was resolved grantcart Sep 2019 #46
3 Dem counties still coming. Rep heavy counties already in grantcart Sep 2019 #26
Still makes me nervous. We see and say that all the time but then.... Roland99 Sep 2019 #27
Cohn and Wasserman are leaning pretty heavily toward Bishop right now bearsfootball516 Sep 2019 #29
Link please grantcart Sep 2019 #31
I think mc cready wins. drray23 Sep 2019 #32
Nah, Bishop is going to win. McCready is underperforming in some counties OliverQ Sep 2019 #33
Overperforming in Meck and that is where outstanding votes are. blm Sep 2019 #38
The counties aren't homogeneous FBaggins Sep 2019 #53
Hope you are right Va Lefty Sep 2019 #34
9th is close enough to mean bad news for the gop lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Drunken Irishman Sep 2019 #40
This is bad news for the Dems... Drunken Irishman Sep 2019 #52
Bishop is going to win. Drunken Irishman Sep 2019 #36
Yup..... a kennedy Sep 2019 #47
It's been a real nail biter since the poll closed. I'm still hoping for McCready but it's going to napi21 Sep 2019 #37
Looks like it's going to come down to turnout in Mecklenburg EarlG Sep 2019 #39
MC is going to have make some votes in order to make a 2000 Legends303 Sep 2019 #51
Question is how many early votes in Mecklenburg cannibalize votes from voting day grantcart Sep 2019 #54
bishop now up about 2000, union 100% in Takket Sep 2019 #41
I hope your right Legends303 Sep 2019 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Sep 2019 #55
Precinct-level model says no :( sharedvalues Sep 2019 #45
The fight is long, we will lose some battles but fight the war to win! sharedvalues Sep 2019 #42
NC rednecks (sorry NC'linians) won't allow a Dem in these areas. CousinIT Sep 2019 #48
Still behind...... a kennedy Sep 2019 #49
The largest county left to count is +17 with 50% left. Thats 50k votes left favoring dems Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #56
Sincerely hope you're right* splunge63 Sep 2019 #57
Now down to 25% left FBaggins Sep 2019 #59
Thank you.........so hope you're right...... a kennedy Sep 2019 #60
Mecklenburg I'm seeing at 80% in... Drunken Irishman Sep 2019 #62
It narrowed a lot in robeson when I posted that. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #64
9:47 applegrove Sep 2019 #50
Hope he can pull this off......not looking the best tho..... a kennedy Sep 2019 #58
Looks like we had VERY poor turnout in Mecklenburg County. Ace Rothstein Sep 2019 #61
Was some of this area Bettie Sep 2019 #69
How about machine malfunction? triron Sep 2019 #74
or functioning properly with malware diva77 Sep 2019 #80
Nope FBaggins Sep 2019 #75
I didn't know which areas Bettie Sep 2019 #77
True FBaggins Sep 2019 #71
.... Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #73
Bishop's lead over 3000 votes now I'm calling it for Legends303 Sep 2019 #63
Not looking good. George II Sep 2019 #65
yeah i thought we had this with mecklenberg at only 54%........ Takket Sep 2019 #66
I think Bishop will win by about 2k votes. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #67
people just never learn............. it is such a shame. Takket Sep 2019 #70
Mecklenburg has a million people. Even if it is only partially part of the county for the district, Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #72
Not plausible triron Sep 2019 #76
Repuke shenanigan. triron Sep 2019 #79
election fraud again.. triron Sep 2019 #85
WTF happened in Robeson? triron Sep 2019 #97
AA population that came out to vote in 2018 didn't come out this time. bearsfootball516 Sep 2019 #112
I'm one who does not trust the Republicans . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #68
With 94% in, they still haven't called it for Bishop. secondwind Sep 2019 #78
Politico has. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #81
And so has the NY Times. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2019 #84
and so have i Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #88
I feel the same sadness, my dear Tiggeroshii....... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2019 #90
In NC-9 , our turnout and vote margin collapsed in multiple counties Celerity Sep 2019 #89
Did the Democrats just give up? Or..........? CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2019 #91
Rethugs surged (in intensity, not raw turnout), and our base didn't turn out Celerity Sep 2019 #100
The closeness actually shows we tried. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #101
Isn't this like a Trump +15 district? Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #95
But in November it was closer Polybius Sep 2019 #102
One article I saw said there are over 30 repubican held districts less republican than this. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #103
Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. bearsfootball516 Sep 2019 #114
It takes an extraordinary situation for us to come out in force on special elections Polybius Sep 2019 #118
Trump plus 11.6 in 2016 nt Celerity Sep 2019 #104
and +3% statewide Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #105
I think if Biden picks Abrams as his VP we have great shots at GA, NC, FL Celerity Sep 2019 #107
NC has been getting better with Cooper, I think, and the chances of corruption have been limited. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #108
+10000 Celerity Sep 2019 #109
If it's close orangecrush Sep 2019 #82
Strange that the most democratic county is the last to be counted. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #83
If it's close orangecrush Sep 2019 #86
You realize that sometimes, you just don't win, right? bearsfootball516 Sep 2019 #98
It's a little worse when you have an incompetent megalomaniac representing Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #99
U.S. House,North Carolina 9th congressional district Politico 10:19 applegrove Sep 2019 #87
Looks like fraud pays off! budkin Sep 2019 #92
someone explain to me......... Takket Sep 2019 #93
It looks like the precincts counted 1st were the large ones, and 50% of precincts left were likely Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #96
Low turnout always favors the Republicans. Blaukraut Sep 2019 #94
drumpf will be celebating his appearance putting bishop over the top Takket Sep 2019 #106
I hate my state! MyMission Sep 2019 #110
The good news is he's still in the minority party. ooky Sep 2019 #111
I hear you. mnhtnbb Sep 2019 #113
Blue dots in a red state and red region MyMission Sep 2019 #115
We had much better representation of the purple state of NC mnhtnbb Sep 2019 #117
Are there any reports of fraudulent activity? Joe941 Sep 2019 #116

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
8. I don't think Thomas has a chance in the 3rd.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:15 PM
Sep 2019

My friend told me that Thomas has NO chance in the 3rd District because he used to live there.

Notice I said he used to live there That race was called just now for Murphy.

applegrove

(118,718 posts)
7. Right now:
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:14 PM
Sep 2019

U.S. House, North Carolina 9th congressional district

Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
50.5% Dan McCready Dem 25,389
49% Dan Bishop GOP 24,617
0.5%Other23

50% of precincts reporting (0/210)50,241 total votes

+ View detailed results



U.S. House, North Carolina 3rd congressional district

The heavily Republican 3rd District stretches across Eastern North Carolina, including the Outer Banks and Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune.

Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
57.6% Greg Murphy GOP 27,588
41.6% Allen Thomas Dem 19,946
0.8%Other368

22.5% of precincts reporting (53/236)47,902 total votes

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
10. 8:31pm - McCready up 6,100 votes. 6.3%
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:30 PM
Sep 2019

Dan McCready 50,218 52.9%
Dan Bishop 44,176 46.6
Jeff Scott 321 0.3
Allen Smith 184 0.2
94,899 votes, 16% reporting (33 of 210 precincts)

 

Legends303

(481 posts)
12. Please let this be an uspet
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:36 PM
Sep 2019

I don't get my hopes if it shows the Democrat leading(please let it stay that way) and wound up loosing anyway.

applegrove

(118,718 posts)
13. 8:40
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:42 PM
Sep 2019

U.S. House, North Carolina 9th congressional district

The 9th District stretches from the suburbs of Charlotte east to Fayetteville, taking in rural and exurban counties along the border with South Carolina. The seat has been in Republican hands for decades.

Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner

51.9% Dan McCready Dem 52,180

47.5% Dan Bishop GOP 47,736


23.8% of precincts reporting (50/210)100,456 total votes

blm

(113,071 posts)
19. McCready is overperforming in Mecklenburg - This is why I donate
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:07 PM
Sep 2019

to Dem GOTV in Mecklenburg. Their county Dem machine makes every dollar count.

applegrove

(118,718 posts)
20. 9:07
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:09 PM
Sep 2019

U.S. House, North Carolina 9th congressional district

The 9th District stretches from the suburbs of Charlotte east to Fayetteville, taking in rural and exurban counties along the border with South Carolina. The seat has been in Republican hands for decades.

Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
49.9% Dan McCready Dem 61,123
49.5% Dan Bishop GOP 60,713

0.6%Other701

46.2% of precincts reporting (97/210)122,537 total votes

drray23

(7,634 posts)
32. I think mc cready wins.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:31 PM
Sep 2019

The rural counties are in. The last big Republican county is 81 % in whereas the big dem county ( which is 1/3 of the entire population ) in only 24% in and mccready is over performing there. He is at 59 %.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
33. Nah, Bishop is going to win. McCready is underperforming in some counties
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:34 PM
Sep 2019

compared to last year.

FBaggins

(26,752 posts)
53. The counties aren't homogeneous
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:52 PM
Sep 2019

It all depends on which precincts are still out.

On edit - Half of the remaining Mecklenburg votes just came in with no significant change in net votes in the county. Those last 25% need to be blue precincts

88% reporting - now down by ~3,200 (2%)

Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #35)

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
52. This is bad news for the Dems...
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:50 PM
Sep 2019

The Republican is out-performing areas compared to 2018. McCready also ran for an entire two years, had an opponent whose party tried stealing the last election and is currently on pace to do worse than he did a year ago.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
37. It's been a real nail biter since the poll closed. I'm still hoping for McCready but it's going to
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:37 PM
Sep 2019

be real close.

EarlG

(21,956 posts)
39. Looks like it's going to come down to turnout in Mecklenburg
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:39 PM
Sep 2019

McCready is slightly underperforming his 2018 totals in the six small counties, but turnout is a lot lower. Bishop is on track in Union. McCready is currently way overperforming in Mecklenburg, with 28% reporting there.

Edit: Bishop has done what he needs to do in Union with 100% reporting. It’s all on Mecklenburg now.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
54. Question is how many early votes in Mecklenburg cannibalize votes from voting day
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:52 PM
Sep 2019

On straight extrapolation McCreedy should have 4-5,000 plurality left in Mecklenburg

Takket

(21,587 posts)
41. bishop now up about 2000, union 100% in
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:41 PM
Sep 2019

Mecklenberg only 54% in and McCready up 7000 there. If that trend continues McCready will win by about 5000.

Response to Legends303 (Reply #43)

CousinIT

(9,251 posts)
48. NC rednecks (sorry NC'linians) won't allow a Dem in these areas.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:47 PM
Sep 2019

The rural areas + those around Charlotte/Mecklenberg - blood red with exception of a few spots. NC is always a disappointment.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
56. The largest county left to count is +17 with 50% left. Thats 50k votes left favoring dems
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:53 PM
Sep 2019

All repug counties have been counted. I will be happy to call it for mcready at this point.

applegrove

(118,718 posts)
50. 9:47
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:49 PM
Sep 2019

U.S. House, North Carolina 9th congressional district

The 9th District stretches from the suburbs of Charlotte east to Fayetteville, taking in rural and exurban counties along the border with South Carolina. The seat has been in Republican hands for decades.

Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
50.5% Dan Bishop GOP 80,927
48.9% Dan McCready Dem 78,468

0.6%Other954

78.6% of precincts reporting (165/210)160,349 total votes

Bettie

(16,112 posts)
77. I didn't know which areas
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:12 PM
Sep 2019

got hit...and my grasp of specific geography of that area is sketchy at best!

Rats.

FBaggins

(26,752 posts)
71. True
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:09 PM
Sep 2019

Union county looks like 40% turnout... while Mecklenburg just crossed half of that (with a dozen precincts yet to report).

Takket

(21,587 posts)
66. yeah i thought we had this with mecklenberg at only 54%........
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:05 PM
Sep 2019

but the remaining precincts must have had very small population because it jumped to 76% and the vote total barely moved.

this one is over.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
72. Mecklenburg has a million people. Even if it is only partially part of the county for the district,
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:09 PM
Sep 2019

how are only 60k people voting??

Celerity

(43,451 posts)
89. In NC-9 , our turnout and vote margin collapsed in multiple counties
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:22 PM
Sep 2019

We went from winning Robeson by almost 5000 votes to almost losing it, and then the Rethugs flipped Cumberland and Richmond outright

2020



2018

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,651 posts)
91. Did the Democrats just give up? Or..........?
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:24 PM
Sep 2019

Or were the republicans that determined?

This is breaking my heart.

Celerity

(43,451 posts)
100. Rethugs surged (in intensity, not raw turnout), and our base didn't turn out
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:33 PM
Sep 2019

I d not have the raw data, but the biggest drop-offs seem to come from high minority areas (which is what fucked us the worst in 2016). Robeson, Cumberland and Richmond are heavily A-A, probably 30% or so overall.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
101. The closeness actually shows we tried.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:33 PM
Sep 2019

Trump won this by double digits in 2016, and they barely kept it by 2% today. From the nytimes:

"As Mr. Trump heads into a re-election year, the closeness of the outcome in a district that hasn’t been held by a Democrat since the 1960s confirmed once more that he energizes Democrats and some independents to fight against him just as much as he inspires Republicans to fight for him. In 2018, Democratic candidates flipped several G.O.P.-held House seats in districts that Mr. Trump had won, a sign of distaste among moderate and suburban voters who reluctantly backed him in 2016. "

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/politics/north-carolina-special-election.html

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
95. Isn't this like a Trump +15 district?
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:26 PM
Sep 2019

We lost it by (so far 2.2%). Turnout is always higher in general elections. We could win this back in a little over a year....

Polybius

(15,461 posts)
102. But in November it was closer
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:34 PM
Sep 2019

I get it that it's a special election, but that didn't stop Republicans from turning out today.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
103. One article I saw said there are over 30 repubican held districts less republican than this.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:38 PM
Sep 2019

Meaning if we get within a few points in enough of them, we will still be gaining a good amount in 2020.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
114. Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 07:37 AM
Sep 2019

It's why it's hard to beat Republicans in these low-turnout elections. They come out every. single. time.

Polybius

(15,461 posts)
118. It takes an extraordinary situation for us to come out in force on special elections
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:39 PM
Sep 2019

Roy Moore was just that situation. This one apparently wasn't important enough.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
105. and +3% statewide
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:42 PM
Sep 2019

If he does even close to as bad as the republican candidates in their districts in 2018 and today, he will lose the state. I'm convinced there is little to say he won't. In this district alone he might be down 9%. Add that up among the rest of the state and he's toast.

Celerity

(43,451 posts)
107. I think if Biden picks Abrams as his VP we have great shots at GA, NC, FL
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:53 PM
Sep 2019

Unfortunately, those are 3 of the most corrupt Rethug states in the US, especially GA and NC.

This is going to be a brutal election. Only way the country doe not partially tear itself apart is a MASSIVE Rump loss, with him then being tried and convicted and imprisoned post-presidency, and finally a 'de-nazification' (not literally, but in de-programming intent) scheme to try and ram the white power genie back in the bottle (which I doubt will happen).

I am afraid forces have been re-released and re-invigorated in the zeitgeist that are going to take decades to diminish.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
108. NC has been getting better with Cooper, I think, and the chances of corruption have been limited.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:55 PM
Sep 2019

A Southerner would definitely help the ticket but the sheer unpopularity of trump is noteworthy for those states. I remain optimistic.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
99. It's a little worse when you have an incompetent megalomaniac representing
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:31 PM
Sep 2019

the party that wins. Due to that fact, reality is far harder to accept.

applegrove

(118,718 posts)
87. U.S. House,North Carolina 9th congressional district Politico 10:19
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:20 PM
Sep 2019

U.S. House, North Carolina 9th congressional district

The 9th District stretches from the suburbs of Charlotte east to Fayetteville, taking in rural and exurban counties along the border with South Carolina. The seat has been in Republican hands for decades.

Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
50.9% Dan Bishop GOP 93,725 ✓
48.6% Dan McCready Dem 89,486

0.6%Other1,103

97.6% of precincts reporting (205/210)184,314 total votes

budkin

(6,703 posts)
92. Looks like fraud pays off!
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:25 PM
Sep 2019

This race should have defaulted to McCready after Harris was busted. Instead, they get a do-over?

Takket

(21,587 posts)
93. someone explain to me.........
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:25 PM
Sep 2019

how Mecklenberg had McCready up 7000 with 54% of the vote counted and he finished only 8000 up in that county. since the most urban areas (blue) are almost always totaled nd submitted last, how did he do that bad in the last 46%? were they actually all red areas in the county?

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
96. It looks like the precincts counted 1st were the large ones, and 50% of precincts left were likely
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:28 PM
Sep 2019

rural with only a few hundred people each.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
94. Low turnout always favors the Republicans.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:25 PM
Sep 2019

Apparently, Dem voters have the attention spans of gnats and can't be bothered to vote unless the house is on fire or something.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
110. I hate my state!
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:57 PM
Sep 2019

Living here in Western NC for 16 years. Born and raised in NYC. Dreaming of moving back to Northeast.

Bitterly disappointed...I hate my state! Bears repeating. Damn rednecks! Dumbfucks. Shit for brains southerners. They probably rigged this election too.

And meadows is my rep(rehensible) gerrymandered con grrr assman, worst of all.

What is wrong with all these people, the ones who voted and those who didn't?!?!
Shit, bullshit, more shit, fuck this shit!

ooky

(8,924 posts)
111. The good news is he's still in the minority party.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:34 AM
Sep 2019

It doesn't mean as much when they don't control the House. And maybe we will get him next year on the down ballot when more voters turn out.

mnhtnbb

(31,397 posts)
113. I hear you.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:58 AM
Sep 2019

Born in Manhattan, grew up in Jersey.

Been in NC since 2000. Didn't think I could ever live in the south. Really enjoyed Chapel Hill--surrounded by progressive Dems-- until the Repubs took over the state after gerrymandering from 2010 election. Look where we are 9 years later. It has taken that long to FINALLY get a court decision to redo the state districts.

Rather than moving back to north east, move to a blue area here in NC. Asheville, Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill...we need your vote!

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
115. Blue dots in a red state and red region
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:00 AM
Sep 2019

Thanks for commiserating.

I'm not leaving any time soon, but harbor many thoughts about escaping this evangelical region. I tell folks I want to retire to the Northeast, when many have retired here from elsewhere. Financially unable to make a move anywhere at the present time. But I do go to Asheville fairly often, to enjoy the company of like-minded people and the illusion that I live among them.

And I am both hopeful and skeptical that fixing the gerrymandering will yield better results.

mnhtnbb

(31,397 posts)
117. We had much better representation of the purple state of NC
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:15 AM
Sep 2019

prior to the gerrymandering. We had 7 Dem reps and 6 Repub reps instead of the 10 Repubs and 3 Dems after the gerrymandering.

It is true you can't get away from the red completely, but if you are at some point able to make a move to a blue area like Asheville, or the Triangle, you will end up meeting a lot more people who are sympathetic to Democratic causes and live Democratic values.

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