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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,136 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:49 PM Sep 2019

Trump's Dorian Brawl Leads to Dispute Within U.S. Weather Agency

(Bloomberg) -- As President Donald Trump dragged the brawl over his forecast for Hurricane Dorian into a sixth day, a U.S. agency released a statement bolstering his account -- prompting a scathing response from the leader of an agency union.

Trump has repeatedly and defiantly continued to defend his assertion that Alabama was in Dorian’s path. On Wednesday, he showed White House reporters a map that he had personally altered -- by drawing a black line -- to bolster his argument. On Thursday, he tweeted photos of Aug. 29 and Aug. 30 forecasts that showed Alabama within the probability zone of tropical storm-force winds. And on Friday, he released a video on Twitter.

“From Wednesday, Aug. 28, through Monday, Sept. 2, the information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to President Trump and the wider public demonstrated that tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama,” the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said in its statement on Friday.

“The Birmingham National Weather Service’s Sunday morning tweet spoke in absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time,” NOAA added in the statement, which was not attributed to any official.

The weather service’s office in Birmingham, Alabama, had said in a tweet on Sunday that “no impacts from Hurricane Dorian will be felt across Alabama,” contradicting the president, who has persisted in arguing that his warning had been accurate.

On Friday night, Dan Sobien, the president of the National Weather Service Employees Organization, tweeted: “Let me assure you the hard working employees of the NWS had nothing to do with the utterly disgusting and disingenuous tweet sent out by NOAA management tonight.”

In a telephone interview, Sobien said that the statement was “like nothing I’ve ever seen, ever,” and could prompt people to ignore future warnings. “I can’t think of another word for it other than managerial malpractice,” he said.

“NOAA needs to withdraw the statement,” he added, “they need to apologize to their employees and they need to go out and do a serious public relations campaign to try to renew the confidence of the American public in the National Weather Service.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trumps-dorian-brawl-leads-to-dispute-within-us-weather-agency/ar-AAGWt0Y?li=BBnb7Kz

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Ilsa

(61,696 posts)
3. It all depends on the integrity of those leadong the drpartments.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:00 PM
Sep 2019

We know Purdue at the Dept of Agriculture has non as he's trying to destroy the dept from within by running off the best scientists.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
5. Ding ding we have a winner
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:05 PM
Sep 2019

This is the bottom of the barrel stuff - there is no lower to sink - which professional institution contradicts its own evidence to please a pathological LIAR?

johnnyfins

(828 posts)
6. Nothing like a bs scandal...
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:06 PM
Sep 2019

...to keep the REAL scumbag stuff out of the news. Stuff like "military being used to prop up failing airport near trump golf resort".

Paladin

(28,269 posts)
7. Well, now: Aren't you the lucky one?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 03:38 PM
Sep 2019

So glad you live in a world where trump's many scandals can be weighed and graded, then discarded if they don't measure up to your standards. As if we're now in a position to let ANY trump malfeasance slip by. As if the deliberate and obvious alteration of a government weather map, involving the lives of tens of millions of citizens, is nothing more than a "bs scandal."

Shame on you.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Yes. Imo, NOAA's behavior is more despicable and damaging
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:47 PM
Sep 2019

than Trump's. This corruption is serious. All Trump's supporters but the most deluded know not to believe his tweets, but we all have a right to depend completely on the integrity of NOAA's statements.

DFW

(54,433 posts)
9. Well, if Brian Wilson would please look the other way for a moment.......
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 03:54 PM
Sep 2019

Well he got himself a Sharpie and he altered the whole course of a storm now
(He altered the storm, now, he altered the storm)
And so changing maps of hurricanes has turned into the national norm now
(He altered the storm now, he altered the storm)
He sent Dorian away, and he’s waiting for the next one to form, now!
(He banished the storm, now, he banished the storm!)
And he’ll have fun, fun, fun til Melania takes his Sharpie away
(Fun, fun, fun til Melania takes the Sharpie away!)

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
10. Maybe he could go to Alabama to comfort the survivors
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:37 PM
Sep 2019

He could take them all some nice absorbent paper towels

And he could ask Congress to allocate them some emergency relief funds so he has more money for his big beautiful wall

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