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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:44 PM Aug 2019

Jim Mattis Couldn't Take It Anymore

On December 19 of last year, Admiral Michael Mullen, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met James Mattis for lunch at the Pentagon. Mattis was a day away from resigning as Donald Trump’s secretary of defense, but he tends to keep his own counsel, and he did not suggest to Mullen, his friend and former commander, that he was thinking of leaving.

But Mullen did think Mattis appeared unusually afflicted that day. Mattis often seemed burdened in his role. His aides and friends say he found the president to be of limited cognitive ability, and of generally dubious character. Now Mattis was becoming more and more isolated in the administration, especially since the defenestration of his closest Cabinet ally, the former secretary of state Rex Tillerson, several months earlier. Mattis and Tillerson had together smothered some of Trump’s more extreme and imprudent ideas. But now Mattis was operating without cover. Trump was turning on him publicly; two months earlier, he had speculated that Mattis might be a Democrat and said, in reference to NATO, “I think I know more about it than he does.” (Mattis, as a Marine general, once served as the supreme allied commander in charge of NATO transformation.)

Mullen told me recently that service in this administration comes with a unique set of hazards, and that Mattis was not unaware of these hazards. “I think back to his ‘Hold the line’ talk, the one that was captured on video,” Mullen said, referring to an impromptu 2017 encounter between Mattis and U.S. troops stationed in Jordan that became a YouTube sensation. In the video, Mattis tells the soldiers, “Our country right now, it’s got problems we don’t have in the military. You just hold the line until our country gets back to understanding and respecting each other and showing it.” Mullen said: “He obviously found himself in a challenging environment.”

Mullen’s concern for Mattis was shared by many other generals and admirals, active duty and retired, who worried that sustained exposure to Trump would destroy their friend, who is perhaps the most revered living marine. Mattis had maintained his dignity in perilous moments, even as his fellow Cabinet officials were relinquishing theirs. At a ritualized praise session at the White House in June 2017, as the vice president and other Cabinet members abased themselves before the president, Mattis would offer only this generic — but, given the circumstances, dissident — thought: “It’s an honor to represent the men and women of the Department of Defense. We are grateful for the sacrifices our people are making in order to strengthen our military, so our diplomats always negotiate from a position of strength.”

By last December, Mattis was facing the most urgent crisis of his nearly two years in the Cabinet. Trump had just announced, contrary to his administration’s stated policy, that he would withdraw all American troops from Syria, where they were fighting the Islamic State. This sudden (and ultimately reversed) policy shift posed a dire challenge to Mattis’s beliefs. He had spent much of his career as a fighter in the Middle East. He had battled Islamist extremists and understood the danger they represented. He believed that a retreat from Syria would threaten the security of American troops elsewhere in the region, and would especially threaten America’s allies in the anti-ISIS coalition. These allies would, in Mattis’s view, feel justifiably betrayed by Trump’s decision.

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The next day, he met Trump in the Oval Office. Mattis made his case for keeping troops in Syria. Trump rejected his arguments. Thirty minutes into the conversation, Mattis told the president, “You’re going to have to get the next secretary of defense to lose to ISIS. I’m not going to do it.” He handed Trump his resignation letter, a letter that would soon become one of the most famous documents of the Trump presidency thus far.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-man-who-couldnt-take-it-anymore/ar-AAGv20j?li=BBnb7Kz

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Jim Mattis Couldn't Take It Anymore (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 OP
"limited cognitive ability, and of generally dubious character" maxsolomon Aug 2019 #1
He was an amazing Secretary of Defense, and I mourned when he left. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2019 #2
Amazing how? GeorgeGist Aug 2019 #8
He was smart, knew both his history and military history... CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2019 #10
Hope Mattis goes public, give cover and counsel to those he can influence empedocles Aug 2019 #3
Nice parting shot to the turd orangeanus. Nt BootinUp Aug 2019 #4
Soothes his soul by going to work for defense contractor. Sneederbunk Aug 2019 #5
ISIS is growing again Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #6
Speak out awesomerwb1 Aug 2019 #7
Mattis is still protecting the military. Ilsa Aug 2019 #9

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
1. "limited cognitive ability, and of generally dubious character"
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:48 PM
Aug 2019

I think you mean "he's a stupid asshole."

I could have told Mattis it was a fool's errand much earlier.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,620 posts)
2. He was an amazing Secretary of Defense, and I mourned when he left.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:50 PM
Aug 2019

I felt as though he was the last grown-up in that misbegotten administration and that without him, things would rapidly disintegrate, which they did.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,620 posts)
10. He was smart, knew both his history and military history...
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:40 PM
Aug 2019

He wasn't afraid to tell tRump what he (Mattis) thought about whatever the topic was.

I also think it was amazing that tRump wanted him on the team. Perhaps Mattis was brought in because of a suggestion from someone else; I don't know. But that he was even there at all was amazing to me.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
6. ISIS is growing again
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:31 PM
Aug 2019

They are just a few thousand fighters short of when Trump took office and growing. What happened to the 30 day secret plan?

And where is the media on this?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
9. Mattis is still protecting the military.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:14 PM
Aug 2019

He doesn't want them questioning leadership, and in doing so, make critical errors, whether legal or tactical. I understand this. But somehow, the military needs to know what has gone on in the WH. They also need to know that the military leaders are not conflicted about their duty to the Constitution.

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