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NOTICE this is CLASSIC ABUSER behavior. Any domestic abuse victim would recognize the gaslighting + the establishment of POWER OVER another person or entity (the media) in order to discredit them when they tell the truth about the abuser (Trump). They ONLY know warfare and it's ALWAYS based in deception.
no_hypocrisy
(46,116 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,826 posts)I only wish people could feel the extreme terror that he makes us feel..................
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I am not joking. I really do feel traumatized by him. It is back to that feeling of being powerless to do anything about this evil person who is harming you (and the country, world, etc.) and not being able to escape it either. Suddenly, this just clicked for me why I am so powerfully, negatively affected by him.
trixie2
(905 posts)Initech
(100,078 posts)Later I found out that my bully's family belonged to the conservative party. I see that behavior in Trump, Trump's family and his supporters every day. It makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
librechik
(30,674 posts)more of the same until the abuser dies. You can't treat this disorder, they don't want to be cured, they think they're fine, and actually better than all the fools that get abused.
It all comes from their own terror of other people. They have to exercise power over others to protect themselves from their own delusional view of others as enemies and attackers.
You're supposed to feel sorry for them as victims, even though they pretend to be the most powerful, intelligent, skilled, least racist, most loving etc etc.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)He can't shut his damn mouth, interrupting everyone including himself. Won't let anyone else say anything. HAS to TALK OVER EVERYBODY. Please sweet Jesus get this loud, abusive, obnoxious, essentially empty person out of office soon.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)center of attention. I think Putin recognized this, and decided tRump would be perfect to destroy the US from the inside out. The traitors in the gop went along to fill their pockets, too. tRump loves to be "on camera" so he holds his own press conferences now that he got rid of Huckerbee Sanders. Who needs others when he has the very best - himself? No photos of Ivanka's world wide trip this week? She was given $100 MILLION to promote women's businesses.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)because some of us might enjoy turning to it once in a while. Trapped in a cell with his mouth shut for once. It would be a satisfying thing to be able to do, as we live our lives more freely & easily.
I can dream, can't I?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It never fucking stops! There is NO break from him EVER. It's like a nightmare that won't end.
Lonestarblue
(9,996 posts)Since all he does is lie, no one will miss anything truly important. I would love to see the White House press corps just not show up for a few days of his incomprehensible mutterings to the sound of a helicopter. He might get the message, and the rest of us would be spared having to mute the television every time he appears on screen.
cp
(6,633 posts)Also, the press should never again attend his "chopper talks." Too noisy (the point) and the press can't do their job there (the whole point). Go ahead and film him in front of the helicopter with no one there, but mute the sound, including of him blathering.
3catwoman3
(23,996 posts)...the day he fucking rode down the escalator.
I hold the media equally to blame with Russia for this lunatic being in office. They reported every damn breath he drew 24/7.
I wish they had just ignored him completely.
calimary
(81,283 posts)or other media figure would just pick up the framing: ... the guy who lies all the time. That should be the remark that ends every observation, every on-camera spiel, every statement and/or messaging effort.
Thats a point that needs to be out there, everywhere, repeated umpteen times every quarter-hour. Pound it in, over and over and over again. Til its thoroughly implanted.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Given his diet, age and physique I am reasonably certain that a cardiac event is in his future and I pray daily that it is a fatal one....and then the party starts and I won't stop until I pass out.
Soon.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)His karma dictates that he have a heart attack and a series of strokes that make it extremely hard for him to talk or do anything for himself, especially his most vain actions like do the updo of his hair or apply makeup. But he should be aware, conscious of his situation and helpless to do anything about it. And he should be at the mercy of caretakers who are just like he is now.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)I am all for maximum suffering for the Mad Tangerine-colored Kommissar!
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)If I were going to turn a nation inside-out, I'd start with its very language. I'd use a powerful (rich) idiot as a weapon, then COUNT on him to destroy the meaning of our precious language. And then have him talk over absolutely everybody, with the media's help.
I may start an OP about that because, there's your chaos. I'm with ya.
Saviolo
(3,282 posts)It depends on gaslighting, and it depends on subduing dissenting voices, often violently.
Trump isn't Hitler, but he is a fascist:
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)respond with the Macauley Culkin "shocked face" and clutch their pearls every single time he does something outrageous to illustrate perfectly his abusive tendencies.
This tells me more than anything else that the shocked person has had the good fortune of never having been in an abusive relationship, or if they were, it was THEY who were administering the abuse.
bdamomma
(63,852 posts)citizens are in the streets and we are not stopping this POS???
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)Leaders around the world have learned that they can ignore crowds of protesters and keep going with whatever heinous things theyre doing and nothing will happen.
You can no longer shame them into changing their agendas because they no longer have any sense of shame.
Theyre marching in Russia over unfair elections, theyre marching in Hong Kong....the Russian and Chinese governments are laughing at them.
I say this as someone who has participated in protests since 1970, when I organized a Vietnam War protest in Birmingham, Alabama, with all the permits, and of course still got my head bashed in by Birmingham cops.
3Hotdogs
(12,382 posts)They dont have to give a shit about what you think-
And they dont.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)ONE MILLION in Britain, big fucking deal, the rich and the powerful got to have their jollies and watch thousands of young people with bright futures die for no fucking reason at all.
[link:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1422228/One-million-march-against-war.html|
Protests are so 1970.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)how the media just ignored us or if they talked about the nationwide marches as if they were insignificant and so passé. It was frustrating to be discounted as some mildly interesting incidents while the media sounded the drums of war like it was glamorous and exciting and they couldnt wait to see the latest shock and awe fireworks. They could barely contain their enthusiasm for the coming war while being bored by the anti war marches.
bdamomma
(63,852 posts)I know they don't give a shit, but doesn't it mean anything that there are more of us than them?? Just to thank you for participating in the protests of the 1970's that was a very turbulent time in our history too.
This POS needs to brought down from that pedestal he is on, and the filthy repig party is no more. They drew a line, and I will be glad when they reap what they have sown.
jmbar2
(4,887 posts)We filled the streets right after he was elected. It seems like decades ago. Ultimately, filling the streets doesn't get rid of him. In a democracy, we must vote him out or impeach. Both will happen soon I believe.
Then we will dance in the streets with joy.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)It's the point, with every single goatfucking participant. Impossible for a thinking, feeling human being to figure out why. Can't wrap my head around it. Trying.
TrogL
(32,822 posts)He spotted a time he got me and started grinning.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)until I realized that NO, I shouldn't try to search for the good in every human being. Some are pure freewheeling malevolence. These days, I feel revulsion and opt to leave the scene/person. But we can't leave. We're trapped in it till that shitheel either gets yanked offstage or please Jesus expires.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Women who he's assaulted or raped with attacks to discredit them and anything they say. It other words everyone's a liar except trump , if you believe this country's most prolific liar.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Except his marks, but they're getting to the "double down" phase.
99% of Republics in DC know he's a Sociopath, and they don't care. They are getting what they want. Power.
This won't end until he dies, and he probably won't anytime soon.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)He is, now, bully to the world.
Deep down inside, he must absolutely loathe himself.
bdamomma
(63,852 posts)get it at the end???? I am hoping that premise comes true.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)democrank
(11,095 posts)and I cant tell you how many times Trump has triggered my feelings of being unsafe, of imminent danger, of hopelessness. I tear up just reading what he has done to certain children. I want to vomit when I read what he says about women. I get agitated when I read things what he has said about minorities. He actually sickens me. The absolute worst part of this is the disgusting collection of Trump enablers. Its a family of excuse- making thugs. *THUGS*
For the sake of a little power and some benefits, these despicable people are willing to sell out their country. Actually sell it out. Everything we stand for. Everything we are. And nobody even tries to stop Trump. Nobody. It reminds me of the absolute despair I felt as a child when I looked to adults to do something about every kind of abuse and neglect. Nobody.
Thats s why I totally and deeply understand some voters demand for something different. Something new. Something not tried before. This has gone on long enough.
bdamomma
(63,852 posts)but isn't this what they want to beat us down, it is their way of controlling the masses. Sorry but I will fight and not let these bastards take us down. Facts, truth, diversity, goodness, humanitarianism, tolerance of others, this was my life lesson.
democrank
(11,095 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)CousinIT
(9,245 posts)Link to tweet
Heres the thing about just joking as a strategy: its what abusers do.
They say something nasty or threatening; watch for the desired reaction; then say just kiddingAND attack you for having no sense of humor if you dont deem it a joke
Its gaslighting w/a menacing edge
Link to tweet
Hes just joking when he says hell pardon aides for illegal acts, just like he kids about staying past his term.
Blue Owl
(50,383 posts)with no intention of ever changing his behavior
CousinIT
(9,245 posts)They only change their victims. (or, add to the number of them)
alfredo
(60,074 posts)calimary
(81,283 posts)The infamous Roy Cohn told him to fight, always. Attack, always. And when they hit you, hit them back ten times as hard.
Look at his track record of behavior - maybe just since his candidacy began, which is when this life-long behavior pattern stepped up onto center stage for the whole country to see (if not the whole world). He used to be a curiosity. Human frippery. Another silly media gadfly from the Big Town. Kind of a low-level attention-hungry clown in a business suit. An amusement. Reality-Show Guy. On the Kardashian level. A buffoon. Someone you never took seriously - mainly because you never had to. He was a freakin carnival attraction, for Petes sake. An entertainment/entertainer. A freak. A relatively well-dressed Midtown Manhattan freak. I keep thinking back to Network, one of my all-time favorite movies. There was a line in there spoken by Peter Finch as the anchorman/social phenomenon: were in the boredom-killing business! The Donald sure was.
Until he stepped outside those parameters. He took that VERY public escalator ride - downward (in EVERY sense of the word) to the main floor level which in any building is where most people can be found, or gather. Quite a metaphor there. Up on the mezzanine level where he was STRICTLY pop culture and therefore relatively harmless. Above the dirty scrappy hardball fray on the main floor where anybody can enter and everybody has immediate access.
Nobody took him that seriously back then. You werent supposed to. He was a joke. A late-night comedians punchline. A cheap pop-culture sugar-high who did cameo appearances on comedy blockbusters like Home Alone. A famous-for-being-famous figure whose clown suit was a business suit. He had even developed his own signature schtick. Until he changed and audaciously expanded his brand.
Seems to me we have to look at this strategically and analytically. Know your enemy. Especially since hes pretty sure he knows you.
Okay. So how do we twist that around so it works for us? kkkarl rove made his reputation by attacking an opponent at his/her strengths. And nobody ever granted donald any exclusive rights to that Roy Cohn advice.
Just some thoughts to kick around.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)to vote for him, he does something like this. Then I have to reconsider everything again.
I know four other candidates whip Trump in the polls. But those aren't electoral votes.