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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:34 AM Aug 2019

Rep. Sean Duffy plans to save his newborn's life using pre-existing conditions protections...

Rep. Sean Duffy plans to save his newborn’s life using pre-existing conditions protections he tried to kill



https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/rep-sean-duffy-plans-to-save-his-newborns-life-with-pre-existing-conditions-protections-he-tried-to-kill/

Wisconsin Congressman Sean Duffy (R) announced this week that he is stepping down from his House seat to care for his ninth child who is expected to be born with a heart condition.

Think Progress noted on Tuesday that Duffy and his wife, Rachel Campos-Duffy, plan to take advantage of the pre-existing conditions protections provided by President Barack Obama’s health care reform law.

Duffy’s child is expected to need surgery soon after birth.

As a congressman, Duffy repeatedly voted to kill the same protections that may now save his child’s life.

During his eight years in Congress, Duffy repeatedly voted to destroy Obamacare and undermine the pre-existing condition protections. He enthusiastically voted for Trumpcare in 2017, which would have made insurance coverage significantly less affordable for those with pre-existing conditions, and just this May he voted against the Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019.
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Rep. Sean Duffy plans to save his newborn's life using pre-existing conditions protections... (Original Post) Miles Archer Aug 2019 OP
Because... Newest Reality Aug 2019 #1
fuck this couple. JI7 Aug 2019 #2
Yup. Their selfish desire to procreate uncontrollably results in Coventina Aug 2019 #7
NINE kids on taxpayer-funded healthcare. dalton99a Aug 2019 #3
But, they're white Ohiogal Aug 2019 #4
Yep, because welfare queens are black dalton99a Aug 2019 #5
The wife Is of Hispanic organ and some of the kids have brown skin kimbutgar Aug 2019 #17
Interesting. Which organ? TryLogic Aug 2019 #30
Well, he might as well use the provisions that are set up to help his child! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2019 #6
A lot of of people don't understand pre-existing Crafty Girl Aug 2019 #8
Welcome to DU Crafty Girl Lochloosa Aug 2019 #15
....a link woud be helpful..tks.. asiliveandbreathe Aug 2019 #16
No link, but based on my own experience Crafty Girl Aug 2019 #34
That was true but there were also lifetime limits that could be eaten up in NICU. pnwmom Aug 2019 #24
But at age 26, if the child wants insurance, too bad. nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #26
Not always mercuryblues Aug 2019 #37
This situation is different from the Duffy's situation Crafty Girl Aug 2019 #38
Correct. onenote Aug 2019 #39
Typical Repuke - Against it till it affects me personally - then I'm for it packman Aug 2019 #9
Birth control is a good thing.. Peregrine Took Aug 2019 #10
The rhythm method works great. localroger Aug 2019 #40
Facial Punchability Factor (FPF) of 9.5. snort Aug 2019 #11
Yes! ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #13
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #22
I call it the Santorum smirk: tblue37 Aug 2019 #29
And he's probably so proud of the gazillion times procon Aug 2019 #12
I'm not sure the Raw Story article is correct onenote Aug 2019 #14
I just posted this link..sure kiddos would be added at parents request..but asiliveandbreathe Aug 2019 #18
Depends on the policy Crafty Girl Aug 2019 #35
Ninth child? Break out the tomahawk trap. iscooterliberally Aug 2019 #19
The guy thinks he's Super Seed. miyazaki Aug 2019 #21
The Real World underpants Aug 2019 #31
Ah ya. Puck was more entertaining. miyazaki Aug 2019 #41
I'd forgotten about Puck underpants Aug 2019 #42
Believe the Congressional Wellstone ruled Aug 2019 #20
For my entire working life, from the 70s until about ten years ago, Mr.Bill Aug 2019 #23
Yup. Crafty Girl Aug 2019 #36
They are all hypocrites...every last damn one of them...fucking hypocrites. nt Ferrets are Cool Aug 2019 #25
It's not hypocrisy as much as it is ignorance SpankMe Aug 2019 #27
What was his answer when confronted with this? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #28
Duffy & fam also get free gov't healthcare for life. displacedtexan Aug 2019 #32
9 Children? Me. Aug 2019 #33
This is the Trump tool who Chris Hayes had on as a guest PA Democrat Aug 2019 #43

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
7. Yup. Their selfish desire to procreate uncontrollably results in
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:48 AM
Aug 2019

this child's future suffering.

Fuck them indeed.

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
17. The wife Is of Hispanic organ and some of the kids have brown skin
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:14 PM
Aug 2019

Let’s just say some white supremist would look down on them.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
6. Well, he might as well use the provisions that are set up to help his child!
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:47 AM
Aug 2019

He wasn't able to get rid of those provisions, so why not?

Fucking Hypocrite!



Crafty Girl

(28 posts)
8. A lot of of people don't understand pre-existing
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:48 AM
Aug 2019

I worked in group insurance for some years. A child whose parents are covered when he/she is born is automatically covered under the parents insurance. It always has been that way. If this child had been born before Obamacare he/she would still have been covered.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
16. ....a link woud be helpful..tks..
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:14 PM
Aug 2019

I did find this little nugget...

https://www.thebalance.com/obamacare-pre-existing-conditions-3306072

Before Obamacare, insurance companies could deny you coverage if you had a pre-existing condition. That affected 50 million people, including 17 million children.

Of those with pre-existing conditions who sought private insurance, 47 percent didn't get it. They were either denied coverage, charged a higher premium, or had their condition excluded because of it.


A child would be covered when born auto coverage, but with a pre-existing condition????

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
24. That was true but there were also lifetime limits that could be eaten up in NICU.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 02:04 PM
Aug 2019

A one year old could end up uninsurable.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
37. Not always
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:29 PM
Aug 2019
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartFailureNews/newborns-family-learns-pre-existing-conditions-apply-birth/story?id=10218514

Newborn Denied Health Insurance Coverage Days After Life-Saving Heart Surgery
By
lauren cox and lara salahi
March 27, 2010

Houston Tracy, a 12-day-old boy, has already survived a rare birth defect, a feeding tube and open heart surgery. Now his family is waiting to see how the battle with an insurance company will fare.
Last week, Houston's parents found out that the term "pre-existing condition" can apply the moment someone is born.
"When he came out, he made one little cry and he didn't really cry much," said Houston's father, Doug Tracy, 39, of Crowley, Texas.
Tracy cut the umbilical cord and watched the hospital staff clean his son. But before his wife Kim Tracy, 36, could touch their son doctors got worried. "We could tell there was something wrong by the way they [the doctors] were acting," Doug Tracy said.


Before Obama care they could be denied coverage. Even if they weighed too much.

'Your baby is too fat': Insurer denies baby Alex Lange coverage because of weight

Crafty Girl

(28 posts)
38. This situation is different from the Duffy's situation
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:37 PM
Aug 2019

FTA:

But by March 24, the Tracy family formally heard their son was denied health insurance.

"We don't have health coverage on ourselves because it's too expensive these days and because of the economy," Doug Tracy said. The couple are small business owners and would have to buy individual policies, which they have for their other children Cooper, 4, and Jewel, 11.


They were looking to purchase an individual policy for the newborn. If the parents had been covered, as the Duffys are, the child would have been covered from birth/
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
9. Typical Repuke - Against it till it affects me personally - then I'm for it
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:52 AM
Aug 2019

I admired him a few days ago for stepping down to care for his child and be with his wife during the days ahead. Now, not so much.

Peregrine Took

(7,415 posts)
10. Birth control is a good thing..
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:56 AM
Aug 2019

For strict Catholics, the rhythm method can work, too.

Limited my brother's family to 4. They only wanted 3 and had one "extra."

localroger

(3,629 posts)
40. The rhythm method works great.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 06:39 PM
Aug 2019

My parents were using it when I was conceived. Then after I was born they switched to real birth control.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. And he's probably so proud of the gazillion times
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:01 PM
Aug 2019

he voted to kill off Obamacare and wipe out the preexisting clause for everyone else. What a two faced, self serving, cruel and heartless bastard.

Let him live in fear day after day, worrying about the health of his own children and get a little taste of what millions of families go through thanks to him and the Republican party.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
14. I'm not sure the Raw Story article is correct
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:05 PM
Aug 2019

My understanding is even before Obamacare, it was commonly the case that where parents have coverage for themselves, a newborn would be covered for the first month under that insurance. Afterwards, the parents would have a window to add the child to their policy without worrying about "pre-existing" conditions (i.e., birth defects).

Crafty Girl

(28 posts)
35. Depends on the policy
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:08 PM
Aug 2019

Back in the day, "dependent coverage" included all dependents, and new babies didn't need to be added to the parent's coverage, because the dependent premium was the same, whether you had one dependent or ten.

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
19. Ninth child? Break out the tomahawk trap.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:30 PM
Aug 2019

This one needs to be trapped and taken the humane society to get neutered. They should probably put a notch in his ear too. I feel bad for the little one though. Especially because his parents are idiots.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
20. Believe the Congressional
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:35 PM
Aug 2019

Members Health Insurance has extra Benies that most would not see. There are some lifetime things in play.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
23. For my entire working life, from the 70s until about ten years ago,
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 02:04 PM
Aug 2019

any health insurance I had through my job asked no questions about pre-existing conditions and required no physical. I didn't have kids or other dependents, so I don't know about that.

Crafty Girl

(28 posts)
36. Yup.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:21 PM
Aug 2019

When I worked in group insurance, where we usually ran into problems with pre-existing in eligibility for group policies was when an employee and spouse both had group coverage under different employers. If one spouse lost his/her job (after the initial eligibility period) and applied for dependent coverage under the spouse's employer's plan, then pre-existing conditions would be taken into consideration. Even a temporary condition, like pregnancy, was sufficient to deny coverage. (But obviously, only for the duration of the pregnancy.)

The definition of pre-existing was very specific. I am a former cancer patient, and when my husband changed jobs, my coverage always continued with no lapse, as long as I wasn't in the hospital at the time of the effective date of coverage.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
27. It's not hypocrisy as much as it is ignorance
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 02:19 PM
Aug 2019

I'm not sure this punk-ass congressman is even aware that he's benefiting from a policy that he voted against. He's seamlessly waltzing into treatment for his newborn as if the preexisting condition benefit has always existed, and will always exist. To him, it's just a policy that "is". It's part of the background to him and he doesn't believe that anything he does as a congressman can alter it.

If the bill he voted for has passed, and the insurance company didn't cover his baby's preexisting condition, he'd stop dead in his tracks and say, "Wait...what?"

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
32. Duffy & fam also get free gov't healthcare for life.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 03:28 PM
Aug 2019

Just one of the perks for the re-elected welfare-hating Republicans. They want it all, but not for anyone else.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
43. This is the Trump tool who Chris Hayes had on as a guest
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:09 AM
Aug 2019

a while back. His behavior was so obnoxious I recall googling him and thinking "oh great, and he has 8 kids." Now there will be a 9th to brainwash into right wing political thinking.

His wife works for Fox "News".

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