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demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 06:58 PM Aug 2019

Scoop: Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S.

President Trump has suggested multiple times to senior Homeland Security and national security officials that they explore using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes from hitting the United States, according to sources who have heard the president's private remarks and been briefed on a National Security Council memorandum that recorded those comments.

Behind the scenes: During one hurricane briefing at the White House, Trump said, "I got it. I got it. Why don't we nuke them?" according to one source who was there. "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" the source added, paraphrasing the president's remarks.

Asked how the briefer reacted, the source recalled he said something to the effect of, "Sir, we'll look into that."

Trump replied by asking incredulously how many hurricanes the U.S. could handle and reiterating his suggestion that the government intervene before they make landfall.

The briefer "was knocked back on his heels," the source in the room added. "You could hear a gnat fart in that meeting. People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'"

https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html


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Scoop: Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S. (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2019 OP
Why don't we dump Trump in the eye of the hurricane instead? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 #1
I'm on Rebl2 Aug 2019 #7
Are we voting on that? Newest Reality Aug 2019 #11
ditto. n/t demmiblue Aug 2019 #16
You mean this is not the fucking Onion? malaise Aug 2019 #2
I can't believe this one - surely, no one is THAT stupid donkeypoofed Aug 2019 #3
I really, REALLY wish that PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #4
Yes! He is surrounded by enablers. Boomerproud Aug 2019 #17
Holy shit...what a maroon! BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #5
Please keep that f'g moron Backseat Driver Aug 2019 #6
Name every hurricane "Ivanka." Dagstead Bumwood Aug 2019 #8
Is he also worried about sharknados? nt Ilsa Aug 2019 #9
NOAA has the answer. Like one was needed. Lochloosa Aug 2019 #10
and then all the radiation would blow right on to the mainland US?? Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #12
Every once in a while some idiot over social media will tout this as a "solution" Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #13
Trump's itching to drop an N-bomb. The reason why is irrelevant. no_hypocrisy Aug 2019 #14
Likely to go as well as Caligula's war with Poseidon. meadowlander Aug 2019 #15
My good lord.... spanone Aug 2019 #18
Build more windmills. safeinOhio Aug 2019 #19
Let's send him to Chernobyl to learn about the safety of radiation Blue Owl Aug 2019 #20
This has got to be fake news... Joe941 Aug 2019 #21

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
4. I really, REALLY wish that
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:01 PM
Aug 2019

the people present when he asks such an ignorant question would at least give a brief answer as to why (as in this case) it's really not a good idea to explode nuclear bombs in hurricanes. Everyone around him is an enabler.

Boomerproud

(7,955 posts)
17. Yes! He is surrounded by enablers.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:53 PM
Aug 2019

One lone voice of sanity....PLEASE!!! Of course they would be vanished, but at least it would be on the record.

Dagstead Bumwood

(3,642 posts)
8. Name every hurricane "Ivanka."
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:05 PM
Aug 2019

That way he won't want to nuke any of them. Hell, he'll probably insist on flying out to visit each one.

Lochloosa

(16,066 posts)
10. NOAA has the answer. Like one was needed.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:14 PM
Aug 2019
https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html

During each hurricane season, there always appear suggestions that one should simply use nuclear weapons to try and destroy the storms. Apart from the fact that this might not even alter the storm, this approach neglects the problem that the released radioactive fallout would fairly quickly move with the tradewinds to affect land areas and cause devastating environmental problems. Needless to say, this is not a good idea.

Now for a more rigorous scientific explanation of why this would not be an effective hurricane modification technique. The main difficulty with using explosives to modify hurricanes is the amount of energy required. A fully developed hurricane can release heat energy at a rate of 5 to 20x1013 watts and converts less than 10% of the heat into the mechanical energy of the wind. The heat release is equivalent to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb exploding every 20 minutes. According to the 1993 World Almanac, the entire human race used energy at a rate of 1013 watts in 1990, a rate less than 20% of the power of a hurricane.

If we think about mechanical energy, the energy at humanity's disposal is closer to the storm's, but the task of focusing even half of the energy on a spot in the middle of a remote ocean would still be formidable. Brute force interference with hurricanes doesn't seem promising.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
12. and then all the radiation would blow right on to the mainland US??
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:19 PM
Aug 2019

I wonder how many more genius ideas of his are being kept from us??????

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
13. Every once in a while some idiot over social media will tout this as a "solution"
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:21 PM
Aug 2019

And I always think how stupid they sound not realizing all the ramifications.

And now a supposed President is one of those idiots.

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