The 'complicit' pundits at MSNBC are 'shocked' that voters are focused on supporting impeachment.

[triron]

Link to tweet

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. The media is making a fortune from trump's presidency.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

6. In fact, media is making a mockery of Trump, who constantly attacks it...

Like media, I too am "shocked" that ANYONE with insight would endorse impeachment if the House of Representatives votes to impeach Teflon Don.

(1) The GOP controlled Senate has already pledged to block the impeachment, which takes a 2/3 majority to approve.

(2) In a reelection bid Trump obtains significant, irrefutable talking points, because an attempted impeachment failed.

(3) Instead of getting several Republican senators voted out of office, the US Senate will remain under GOP control, as Trump policies become more acceptable to swing voters.

(4) Media focus is changed from Trump's failed policies and crimes (including Obstruction of Justice, his refusal to release income tax returns and collusion with enemies of the USA.

[PatrickforO]

19. Not necessarily.

The impeachment inquiry is happening now. They can still hold up a vote on actual articles for some time.

In the meantime, the economy that Obama left and Trump has systematically undermined is getting soft. We're in for a significant downturn, and an increasing number of indicators are showing weakening, slowing.

Moodys, the Fed and others are now predicting at the least a major slowing in job growth. It will happen as Trump keeps screwing around with this trade war, and will be exacerbated by the grossly irresponsible tax cut for billionaire donors coupled with feckless across-the-board deregulation. There are a bunch of bubbles out there, and when they all burst, it will be akin to what happened in '08.

I believe this recession will hit in just a couple of months - toward the end of this year, and it will deepen through the first quarter of 2020. It will be a time of economic misery with high unemployment and a government incapable of doing what will need to be done to make itself the spender of last resort. Demand will go down, down, down, and layoffs will increase over months.

There will be massive social unrest because 8 of 10 Americans cannot even sustain $400 in unplanned expenditures. If a recession hits and millions are laid off, and unemployment has to be cut because of the unsustainable Trump national debt, rioting will happen across the nation.

At the same time, the impeachment hearings will be bringing up crime after crime, and the public will be exposed to that, and they will rightly blame Trump and the Republicans. So, if the articles are passed by the House, say in October, in a time of economic misery for most Americans, the country will be painted blue in November.

Those are my prognostications, at least.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

20. Agree with you on most...

But I don’t think there will be widespread violence or rioting. It may mirror the sixties with different areas that are effected more raising up...ok the more I tap this out I’m remembering those days...one led to another...without any social media.

Crap on a cracker Patrick...think you may have it nailed...god I hope this never happens.

[PatrickforO]

24. Yeah, no shit, man. I'm 60 years old - too old for that kind of thing, for sure.

And yet, here we are. Say, have you seen that documentary, The Brainwashing of my Dad? Because that's why we're so darned polarized.

In our parents' day, we weren't even close to being this far apart. And I was reading in the stupid media that according to surveys, (not sure WHAT surveys, but 'according to surveys,') 59% of Americans fear violence from people who dislike Trump's policies.

Think about THAT for a minute. They've got that one totally backwards.

[Eyeball_Kid]

26. We also know that

the financial industry is bundling bad debt with good debt in the same way that led to the crash of 2008. That’s an important factor.

[kozar]

2. Once we win

Next Nov. Then we need to keep the energy up and attack these jerks! But first things ,first. There is so much that needs fixing!

Koz

[triron]

4. Impeach the motherfucker!

Trump is the greatest threat to our nation and perhaps the entire planet.

[Kid Berwyn]

3. But but but but the Senate!

Not our problem. If they don’t vote to convict, the People will vote them out.

[INdemo]

17. I expect a huge crowd of protesters at the Senate Building,

if Impeachment proceeds, demanding that Trump be convicted.

[Sherman A1]

5. They are there to fill airtime

Blathering about whatever the memo of the day is, between ads for drugs we never knew we needed.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

9. and ads from law firms about last month's (oops) drugs

[redstateblues]

7. Are you kidding? MSNBC has been beating the impeachment drums for months

Ari, Tweety, Rachel, Hayes, Odonell have all been clamoring for useless impeachment for a long time

[FBaggins]

11. Not the only way the OP is off-base

Everyone knew that pro-impeachment advocates were going to flood the town halls. That isn’t evidence of what the voters want (over polls showing just the opposite). But

[BootinUp]

12. Dayum you!

You’re spoiling the thread with that excellent analysis.

[jberryhill]

13. For Trump, and others, it's important to attack the media

[Takket]

8. "Media shocked that residents trapped in burning home want to call fire department"

[triron]

10. Great!

[Hekate]

14. That's not what I've seen on MSNBC. Of course, I watch the brightest & avoid C Todd &A Mitchell

[INdemo]

15. All the hosts are forced to read the Comcast Corporate Mafia Media

scripts ....from the Right Wing producers, if they want to have their contract renewed.
Even Rachel has her limitations set forth by the producers.
Its just that Chuckie Todd has his nose where brown stains are end result.

[Hekate]

16. Do you have a link for that assertion?

[INdemo]

18. OMG...NBC/MSNBC is owned by Comcast

that support Right Wing candidates. So can't you tell by some of the programs content where its coming from..

[TwilightZone]

21. It's rather obvious that Rachel isn't reading off a right-wing script.

Watch her show sometime, though it'll probably poke holes in your assertion.

[INdemo]

28. I didnt say she was reading from a script ..I said she no doubt she has certain limitations...

Is Every single post here on DU immediately open for argument ?

Comcast Owns NBC/MSNBC just in cast you were unaware of that fact
FYI..... I do watch Rachel at least 3 times a week when I can.....

.......I just noticed that probably TwilightZone is no doubt a very good screen name fo ryou

[Hekate]

22. So, no link. No study. Just a smear of Rachel Maddow, Nicolle Wallace, & their guests.

Thanks! I'll give it my most earnest consideration.

[Hortensis]

23. Majoriity polled as summer heats up OPPOSE impeachment, 59% according

to Monmouth just the other day. Support among voters has DROPPED while they tend to vacations and driving their kids around to ball fields and play dates.

Meanwhile, support has crept up among Democratic congressmen, all the way to half.

Just maybe our leadership know what they're doing.

[triron]

25. Well what do you expect with the typical unthinking moronic American?

[Eyeball_Kid]

27. Eh?

This is similar to a jury deliberating BEFORE the evidence is presented. An impeachment inquiry has a legitimate function. It’s to present evidence to argue for or against impeachment. The House hasn’t heard all of the evidence yet, and neither have the American people.

[Hortensis]

29. Well, the house has begun the impeachment inquiry.

That's what's happening. No recommendation has been sent to the Republican-controlled senate, which would then conduct a trial and, of course, until and if big change occurred, would absolve Trump of all charges.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

30. When?

I wasn't aware that it had. When did they vote to start one?

[Hortensis]

31. About a month ago? The process is that the judiciary

committee decides to move forward with investigation/inquiry. The chair, Jerry Nadler, did explain it was on, making the rounds of the talk shows, etc.

They're doing a balancing act, proceeding with gathering evidence without a lot of drama. That's because even a majority of Democrats do NOT want impeachment, while a large majority of the electorate does not.

And right now we have a senate that will not find guilt no matter what evidence is presented and an election fast approaching that may well decide the future of our nation -- to continue as a liberal democracy or become a RW authoritarian state. So we gather what we hope will eventually be overwhelming evidence that will swing the balance of support to removal.

But in the meantime, Trump himself may. The media are now openly discussing his mental state as it appears to have deteriorated. THAT'S HUGE. I'm as sure as I can be that our party leaders have been receiving reports on his mental status that started before he even took office. Media are also openly reporting that many on Wall Street believe Trump is manipulating the stock market via his tweets to benefit himself and his cronies...