A total madman is in power. Yet, we're playing by the rules

[Cyrano]

And if/when the Republicans and Russians once again steal the next election for him, all the rules will be gone.

Forget impeachment and the 25th Amendment. They are the rules, but the rules are useless.

There comes a time when the rule book must be suspended for a while.

Are we there yet?

I don't have an answer to what we do now. But the majority of us better figure out the answer to that pretty damn quickly.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Saying this since inauguration. If we had UNITY and 70% of us showed up

and voted, even if the KGB hacks the machines and shuts down the power grid, we could overcome it BUT we must have unity.

Dems are in a lose/lose, they have no power over a lawless justice dept and WH but take flak daily from many on the left.

Real bad situation, plus our government is decimated, all but gone, we just dont know it yet.

[lame54]

2. They soooooo count on that

[Cyrano]

3. We are the sheep. They are the wolves.

Figure out what comes next.

It seems to me that our only option is to make the Republican Party understand they're on the verge of extinction as a political entity. Nothing scares politicians more than that.

[elocs]

8. I've heard in the past that the GOP was on the verge of extinction,

yet they are still here.
Will there be re-education camps for the tens of millions of Republicans and conservatives in this country? Because they aren't going anywhere.

[FiveGoodMen]

16. But they aren't on the verge of extinction

They're in the vanguard of world-wide rising fascism.

[abqtommy]

4. Actually we have a lot of leeway to stick it to tRUMP

and his minions by sticking to the rules. I've lived in countries where martial law and the occasional military coup occurred and to me that's an undesirable if last gasp scenario.

[Cyrano]

5. I guess I'm suggesting that we spend billions

running ads and candidates against every elected Republican in the country.

A military coup would be doomed here.

[Oregon1947]

6. If a military coup is a scenario at

all we're screwed. Combat troops are right wing as they come.

[elocs]

7. Once the rules are gone, our democratic republic is over.

Once we justify using other than constitutional means to get rid of Trump then one day when the tables are turned, the Republicans will do it to a Democrat and rightfully point out that we did it first.
Given these times and this administration I think I would be cautious about openly expressing on a public message board using non constitutional means to remove a president from office.

[Cyrano]

9. Please show me where I said that.

[elocs]

10. You may not have said it, but you sure danced around it nicely, right up to the edge. n/t

[stopdiggin]

11. yes indeed

in all but bold faced underlined

They are the rules, but the rules are useless. There comes a time when the rule book must be suspended for a while.

and now we're going to play "misunderstood"

[stopdiggin]

12. you said exactly that (nt)

[Cyrano]

13. Read what you want. And your answer to our current dilemma is ????

[stopdiggin]

14. NOT extra-legal methods (nt)

[triron]

15. Unfortunately there were many 'norms' that have been thrown out the window.

Here lies one of the chief weaknesses of our system.

[Grasswire2]

17. we should assume the election will NOT be secure.

Look at all the experts who have told us so, UNDER OATH.

Mueller, Wray, Coates, Comey...

Here is something we each can do:

If you are on twitter and you DM the message at the bottom, below, you can send a message to your own representative regarding election security. SAFE is the name of the law.


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