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Has anybody ever seen a hurricane forming this far north before? (Original Post)
Recursion
Aug 2019
OP
The ocean currents, a big driver of weather patterns, is also being changed.
world wide wally
Aug 2019
#5
roamer65
(36,747 posts)1. The climate fun is just beginning.
Wait until we get near 500 ppm.
Nearing 1000 ppm and we will start to see the cognitive impairment effects.
FakeNoose
(32,825 posts)2. I think the main factor is the surface water temperature
... and the warm waters are going farther north this year.
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malaise
(269,222 posts)3. Chantal is not expected to become a hurricane but Alberto
was further north according to the experts
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2019-08-21-tropical-storm-chantal-atlantic
The formation location of Chantal was at 40.2 degrees north latitude, making it the farthest north a tropical cyclone has formed in the Atlantic since Alberto in 1988, according Dr. Phil Klotzbach, tropical scientist at Colorado State University.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Atlantic_hurricane_season
Tropical Storm Alberto
Tropical storm (SSHWS)
Duration August 5 August 8
Peak intensity 40 mph (65 km/h) (1-min) 1002 mbar (hPa)
The season's first named storm originated on August 4 within a weak trough of low pressure that formed off the coast of South Carolina. The next day a low level circulation was detected by satellite, indicating that a tropical depression was forming. By August 6 the storm was designated the second tropical depression of the season.[4] An approaching weak frontal trough pushed the depression northeastward and enhanced its upper-level outflow. On August 7 the system was designated Tropical Storm Alberto at 41.5°N, while located just south of Nantucket, Massachusetts, becoming the northernmost system to intensify into a tropical storm on record.[15][nb 2] The storm accelerated northeastward at 29 mph (47 km/h) and struck western Nova Scotia that evening with little impact.[15][16] On August 8 Alberto became extratropical over the cold waters of the Gulf of Saint Lawrence. Shortly thereafter it dissipated just north of Newfoundland.[15]
Cool, thanks!
world wide wally
(21,757 posts)5. The ocean currents, a big driver of weather patterns, is also being changed.
pecosbob
(7,545 posts)6. Not unprecedented...typically most spawned there don't develop much further
That being said, pressure and temperature differentials are key, particularly warm water. Who knows what southward moving colder polar melt-water might do in creating warmer lower-pressure pockets in the North Atlantic.