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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: NYPD fires Pantaleo
for Eric Garner's murder.
Justice at last
hlthe2b
(102,379 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)and Garner said it over and over
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Bettie
(16,129 posts)but something is better than nothing.
Now, shall we have a pool on how long it takes him to be hired by another department?
malaise
(269,187 posts)Watch and see
JHB
(37,162 posts)I mean, you're not wrong, but it's nothing you need to wait to see. Anything even vaguely within reach gets put on the conveyor belt.
padah513
(2,506 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)No chance this guy can be slipped into the kind of low-budget department that would be glad to be able to hire a trained, experienced officer without the community finding out. Also, the liability for a small community could be potentially disastrous if he were to hurt someone.
underpants
(182,904 posts)ret5hd
(20,523 posts)getting arrested and choked out.
BumRushDaShow
(129,543 posts)Daniel Pantaleo will not receive his New York Police Department pension, NYPD Commissioner James ONeill just said.
ONeill said whatever contributions Pantaleo has already made towards his pension will be returned to him.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/daniel-pantaleo-eric-garner-nypd/index.html
malaise
(269,187 posts)Reckless behavior must be punished.
BumRushDaShow
(129,543 posts)Anyone else and that would have been automatic.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)As other people have mentioned, he should really be in jail. And it took 4 YEARS to get him out of the job. But, I guess we have to start *somewhere*. Maybe the next police officer won't take as long to be removed- or may actually see some jail/prison time for their actions.
Kid Berwyn
(14,971 posts)No offense to street vendors.
malaise
(269,187 posts)who refused to proceed with the civil rights'violation
Kid Berwyn
(14,971 posts)When those in charge refuse to see that the racism is systemic, nothing happens.
In Macomb County, near Detroit, weve got a lot people more concerned about the death of a police dog than a man, Theoddeus Gray.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/macomb/2018/11/28/st-clair-shores-police-k-9-dog/2130983002/
Thankfully, Michigans new AG, Dana Nessel, has opened an investigation.
malaise
(269,187 posts)Non-white and poor white human life is not important to many
Good.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)this press conference. Not once did he say Judge Maldonado. He referred to the police officer and everyone else by their title and last name, but not the Judge. Even when press members referred to Judge Maldonado's decision, O'Neill would reply with Rosemarie or Rose Mary. He said it many times - very deliberate and disrespectful. Her name is Judge Rosemarie Maldonado.
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)No respect for women as usual.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Fuck him.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)Sitting there, a finger on the pulse of all humanity!
Damn! The Washington Post just tweeted that story 4 bloody minutes ago!
LOL.....On the ball, that's for sure!
irisblue
(33,034 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,543 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)Ha - we retirees have time on our hands.
I knew what was coming based on what the Commish said early. I almost posted the firing before he said it
By the way what ever happened to Harvard graduate and tennis player, James Blake, after that ridiculous take down outside a hotel by New York Cops?
Aristus
(66,467 posts)High-fives all around, NYPD.
Now: how many years does Eric Garner get back?...
Mendocino
(7,511 posts)FUX news circuit in no time, railing about "injustice". Then the "security consulting" gig with the Devos family.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,752 posts)Good move by NYPD, though.
Mr.Bill
(24,330 posts)FM123
(10,054 posts)because of it, should have been as easy as breathing. None of this hemming and hawing about how difficult this decision was for him to make and how he empathizes and understands how police officers would not like his decision. Gimme a break...
djacq
(1,634 posts)Pantaleo swore an oath to serve and protect.
By killing unarmed Eric Garner, who was Pantaleo serving?
By killing unarmed Eric Garner, who was Pantaleo protecting?
malaise
(269,187 posts)Police should not be mad here because he violated policy and where is the Federal Grand Jury.
lapucelle
(18,351 posts)Another officer, Sergeant Kizzy Adonis, said the perpetrators condition did not seem serious and that he did not appear to get worse. Garner, a 43-year-old father of six, died soon after. (He became unresponsive, though he was observed to be breathing, according to the report, and went into cardiac arrest when he was placed on the stretcher.) Four other officers involved, including Daniel Pantaleo, who administered the illegal chokehold, were not interviewed for the report, pending a criminal investigation.
The Daily News adds that Adonis also told interviewers she believed she heard Garner, who was suspected of selling loose cigarettes, state that he was having difficulty breathing. On the tape, he can be heard saying I cant breathe at least nine times.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/07/nypd-report-eric-garner-not-in-great-distress.html?gtm=top
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-garner-chokehold-death-sergeant-20190716-jcve5sudnrcptbyhlftyjhxm3m-story.html
https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-chokehold-eric-garner-20160108-story.html
barbtries
(28,811 posts)but it's something.
since I don't support the death penalty, when it's homicide there can never truly be justice. Eric Garner and his loved ones deserved much more.
malaise
(269,187 posts)but at least he has been fired
lapucelle
(18,351 posts)on Bay Street, SI retired at full pension.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-chief-department-philip-banks-resigns-sources-article-1.1994283
According to NYDN reports:
Chief of Department Philip Banks the highest-ranking uniformed cop in the city sent a sergeant from his office at 1 Police Plaza in July to investigate complaints of untaxed cigarettes being sold in the Tompkinsville neighborhood, a source close to the investigation told The News.
" (Banks) set the whole thing in motion," the source said.
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https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/wife-man-filmed-chokehold-arrested-article-1.1893790
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)I hope they take his pension.
Duppers
(28,127 posts)K&R
sandensea
(21,674 posts)They practically have a sign in their front door that says "Disgraced thugs - inquire within"