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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEveryone will eventually turn on Trump. Even Steve Doocy. (the Week)
(Put aside your pessimism and simply consider this your morale booster for the morning )
https://theweek.com/authors/windsor-mann
It's too soon to say when Donald Trump's presidency will end, but it's not too soon to say how it will end. It will end in disgrace. And when it does, Trump's defenders will turn on him. Some already have. On Sunday, Anthony Scaramucci, Trump's former communications director, said that Republicans should "replace the top of the ticket in 2020." Former White House aide and Apprentice contestant Omarosa Manigault never had a bad word to say about Trump when she worked for him. Trump said he hired her "because she said GREAT things about me." But after she left the White House, she said Trump was "mentally impaired" and accused him of saying the N-word.
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Trump's post-presidency will be sadder and more pathetic than his presidency. His presidential library will be neither presidential nor a library. His memoir, if someone writes one for him, will be dreadful ghostwritten, poorly written, replete with falsehoods and errors, and bereft of insights and useful information. His presidential papers will contain such statements as "Horseface"; "trade wars are good, and easy to win"; "a very stable genius"; and "your favorite President, me!" No mainstream public figure will want to be associated with his legacy.
In February, 157 scholars ranked Trump as the third-worst president in U.S. history. And it's not just the eggheads who disapprove of him. According to Gallup, 54 percent of Americans disapprove of his presidency. Trump has averaged the lowest approval rating of any president in history. Unlike his predecessors, Trump doesn't need a war or a recession to be unpopular he just needs himself. And unlike his predecessors, Trump won't improve his public standing as a private citizen.--snip--
After Trump leaves office and has fewer things to do, people will have fewer reasons to listen to him. Ex-President Trump will call Fox & Friends every morning, but they will ignore him. Instead of ranting on air, he will leave voicemails for Steve Doocy's assistant's intern.
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Thekaspervote
(32,787 posts)tanyev
(42,601 posts)rolling on the floor, holding his breath temper tantrum. But most of all, I just want to see it end.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)tanyev
(42,601 posts)pecosbob
(7,542 posts)ranting to any passersby who will listen, 'huge crowds...biggest ever'.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)As he is being served with Indictments from Congress for crimes committed while POTUS.
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)Subpoenas on Day 1 after leaving office!
I mainly want to see him in handcuffs! Priceless!
rurallib
(62,444 posts)Buchanan? Jackson? Hoover? I missed that story.
hlthe2b
(102,343 posts)unanimity that he is dead last. Google Historian's Presidential rankings as well as Political Scientist's Presidential rankings.
Red Pest
(288 posts)Here are the bottom five according to the Sixth Siena Expert Poll (2018): At #40 - Pierce; #41 - Harding; #42 - Trump; #43 - Buchanan; #44 - Andrew Johnson.
Remember that while Trump is president #45, only 44 have been president. Cleveland was president for two non-consecutive terms.
What is quite noteworthy, the poll was conducted only one year into his term. How will Trump be ranked at the end? No matter what, he will be quite rank (adjective).
Link to the Siena Poll: [link:https://scri.siena.edu/2019/02/13/sienas-6th-presidential-expert-poll-1982-2018/|
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)tRumps term will end (if he is not re-elected) on Inauguration Day 2021. The duly elected President will be sworn in and tRump will become the former President. If he follows protocol, he will depart from the White House to live somewhere else....that day. The newly sworn in President and family will move in.
Even if tRump refuses to leave, his time as President is up. So is this tradition? Or is it codified?
If tRump just squatted and refused to leave, could he be forced to leave? Escorted out by Security?
There seem to be a fair number of people who are convinced that tRump will just refuse to leave and try to stay in office. But cant the duly elected person be inaugurated anywhere and assume the duties of the President, regardless of what the now former POTUS does?
leftieNanner
(15,143 posts)Lawrence talked about this a while ago
hlthe2b
(102,343 posts)Trump would automatically cease to be President and all powers surrendered) might be delayed and our entire system put into chaos by Trump trying to contest election results. They go on to surmise that he'd bring a court case against the EC's convening and certifying his opponent's win (hopefully, please God and Goddess and DOG), based on claims of electoral fraud or whatever. It gets worse if you subscribe to the thought that the Russians or whoever could actually manipulate electoral results in one or more critical states/counties INTENTIONALLY allowing themselves to be detected, with the entire goal of casting doubt on election results and thus giving Trump ammo to contest.
I am not going to let myself go in that direction but just explaining why you see some posting such assumptions of pending gloom.
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)**********QUOTE*******
.... Trump's sycophants are as loyal as he is which is to say, not at all. In The Art of the Deal, Trump counted Roy Cohn as a friend, calling him "a truly loyal guy." After Cohn contracted AIDS, Trump "dropped him like a hot potato," according to Susan Bell, Cohn's longtime secretary. That's the kind of friend Trump is the kind you don't want.
The people who are loyal to Trump are loyal not because they like him as a person but because they have something to gain from him. In an interview with The New York Times, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) admitted that he embraced Trump "to try to be relevant." So far, his plan has worked superbly Graham has a recurring slot on Hannity. Once Trump is gone, however, Graham will no longer need the man he once dismissed as "the world's biggest jackass." He will find someone else to latch onto, and he will forget about Trump just as he forgot about John McCain. ....
Trump will try to profit, too, of course. He already runs an online store on his personal website, where you can purchase a MAGA bathing suit for $55 and a "WITCH HUNT" coffee mug for $30. But the market for Trump regalia will shrink when he's out of office. Of his poorly educated supporters, how many will spend $30 on a memoir they won't read? Who will pay to hear Trump blabber about nothing when he already does that for free? Won't people tire of him?
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malaise
(269,157 posts)Let the cannibalism begin
chowder66
(9,074 posts)After he leaves office, people will use him and his access to others/world leaders, oligarchs, etc. He will be busy propping his kids up and work towards getting them elected or on boards or whatever.
Too many grifters are now united and will use the shit out of each other for their own gains.