Meanwhile, on the Queen's Balmoral estate, Prince Andrew is paying a visit that was not preannounced

[lapucelle]

to the press.

Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson staying at Balmoral with The Queen

The Duke of York and his ex-wife, Sarah, Duchess of York, are staying at Balmoral Castle for a short holiday with The Queen.

In a further sign that Her Majesty has accepted Sarah back into the family, she and Prince Andrew are expected to stay in the Scottish residence for a week or so.

https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/york/prince-andrew-and-sarah-ferguson-staying-at-balmoral-with-the-queen-128366/

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BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein dead
Convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has died in prison.

According to the BBC, the disgraced financier killed himself in his Manhattan cell just a few hours after new court documents were opened.

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The Epstein case has long lingered over the Duke of York who had been named in court documents relating to the case. Prince Andrew has denied any wrongdoing in the strongest possible terms.

Buckingham Palace issued a strongly worded statement in 2015 denying that the Duke had undertaken any wrongdoing.

Epstein was sentenced in 2008 to eighteen months in prison after he pleaded guilty to soliciting a minor for prostitution.

Prince Andrew has been heavily scrutinised for his friendship with Epstein. The pair were photographed together in 2010 after the billionaire had served his prison sentence.

https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/breaking-jeffrey-epstein-dead-128373/

The Balmoral estate, located within a national park in Scotland, is privately owned by the Queen and covers an area of about 50,000 acres. In addition to its castle, there are several other estate houses and lodges.

There is no public access in August, when the Queen is in residence.

[spooky3]

1. Is the Queen hoping Sarah can spruce up Andrew's reputation? nt

[murielm99]

2. LOL!

[lapucelle]

5. Andrew is comfortably ensconced on 50,000 acres off limits to the press.

Interesting indeed.

[lapucelle]

7. Ah Fergie...the last time the Duchess of York visited Balmoral was the weekend that her topless,

toe-sucking photos unexpectedly turned up on the front pages of the Sunday papers.

In August 1992, surreptitiously taken photographs of the Duchess sunbathing topless with John Bryan, an American financial manager, were published in the British tabloid Daily Mirror. The Duchess endured widespread public ridicule contributing to her further estrangement from the British royal family.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1029135/sarah-ferguson-photo-prince-andrew-divorce-royal-news

[gldstwmn]

14. Johnny Bryan was a bartender

in Aspen but kudos to the tabloids for sprucing hin up as a money manager.

[lapucelle]

15. They were both consenting adults, but her kids were right there with them.

Not in front of the kids!

[cwydro]

3. Yeah, that's the ticket!

Epstein is at Balmoral!

[jberryhill]

9. There's an art form to this stuff

A “visit that was not preannounced to the press” as if there’s a consistent stream of information on the whereabouts of various persons who will not be monarch.

Where were his last several moves over the past month published?

But in order to “hide out”, they announce he’s there.

[cwydro]

10. I wish I didn't have so many errands to do today because this stuff is just too rich to miss.

Every time I check in, there’s a new theory here.

[Captain Zero]

23. In 2001 or so, Andrew made a visit to Indianapolis that just always seemed odd to me

It was over the course of several days and was in the press but didn't get a lot of play, no real insight from them on it other than he was a guest at the Christel DeHaan compound, and met with Tony George of the Motor Speedway, and there was an indication of something at the Scottish Rite Cathedral. Just always seemed glossed over to me, but I don't run in any of those circles. Seemed like a definite insider visit. Maybe just a charity deal... That could always be a good cover too.

[sdfernando]

30. yep...sounds like a case of

Epstein-Balmoral Syndrome!


I'm here all week folks!

[AndJusticeForSome]

4. The Queen

...with a twinkle in her eye...

Great ending to a movie on this topic, no?

[lapucelle]

6. I guess it's better digs than the tower...

[customerserviceguy]

8. Maybe James Bond had something to do with Epstein's, uh, "disappearance".

I remember one of the Bond movies where he faked his death.

[cwydro]

12. You Only Live Twice was that one, I think.

Loved those old movies.

[Aristus]

17. 'Spectre' was another.

n/t

[jalan48]

11. Now this is some serious white privilege.

[lapucelle]

13. It has been quietly speculated that the royal family has a private system of dealing

with wayward members, even in modern times.

From Prince Albert Eddy, grandson of Victoria and rumored to be a Ripper suspect, who died mysteriously while under the care of the Queen's personal physician, his symptoms being remarkably like those of poisoning.

to the Duke of Kent, the very handsome, cocaine sniffing, bisexual brother of King George VI who died in a plane crash,

to Prince Philip's uncle the Earl of Mountbatten (blown up while on a small fishing boat in Ireland one quiet Sunday) who had infuriated the members of the House of Windsor when he was overhead crowing that after Elizabeth, the Mountbatten family would be sitting on the throne of England,

to the poor Diana who died a violent death under such troubling circumstances.

It makes sense that those in the world who still hold crowns do so in part because they are ruthless.

I'd watch my back if I were Randy Andy.

[jalan48]

16. Good analysis. It seems the Royals aren't subject to the same rule of law as the Commoners.

[Hekate]

18. I don't know that any of that speculation is true, but if so, it is certainly ruthless...

...and doesn't bode well for Andy.

[lapucelle]

22. (The) Queen has spoken!

[akraven]

24. and if I didn't like you so much already, you'd have just doubled it!

[lapucelle]

25. ...

[lapucelle]

20. And they get to lock each other up in towers!

Or in the case of MBS, in the Ritz-Carlton.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/how-saudi-royal-crushed-his-rivals-shakedown-ritz-carlton-n930396

[jberryhill]

28. What a pile of shit

The IRA killed Mountbatten and claimed responsibility for it. We know who set the bomb, why and how.

Are you seriously suggesting the Queen was running the Irish Republican Army?

There is no shit too stupid to be posted here.

[marybourg]

31. The most hated member of the

royal family in modern times, the king who abdicated, later called the Duke of Windsor, lived out his life in exile. Not to mention the probably even more hated Duchess of Windsor, the former Wallis Simpson, likewise.

[lapucelle]

32. Well... Wallis's jewelry was stolen one of those rare times she returned to England.

Maybe for her that was a fate worse than death.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1450348/The-Duchess-and-the-thief-who-would-not-confess.html

[lpbk2713]

19. "We are not amused, you horny lecher."

...

[lapucelle]

21. ...

[lapucelle]

26. Prince Andrew attended church with the Queen this morning.

My word! He looks...lost in thought.

[jalan48]

33. She looks quite chipper.

[mr_lebowski]

27. Although Epstein was extremely evil and guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt ...

I don't know that it's fair to assume that everyone 'named' by any of his victims was necessarily guilty of horrible crimes.

The young victim, Ms. Giuffre, who named Prince Andrew as one of the famous people she 'slept with' (among others) ... began 'working' for Epstein at the age of 17 and continued doing so for 4 or 5 years IIRC from Julie Brown's articles from last November.

I'm not quite ready to assume that everyone she named knew exactly what was going on with this lech Epstein, or that they necessarily broke the laws of the land where the events transpired. 17 is the age of consent in many locales, including NY state, and I don't know that she's even claimed to sleeping with him while still a minor.

They MAY HAVE, don't get me wrong ... but I'm reserving judgement in some cases, and Prince Andrew is one of those cases, for the time being.

Just saying.

[gldstwmn]

29. Andrew will never be questioned.

Even though there are photos of him with Virginia Giuffre he will say they are just photos.