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?!?Guards told to leave 3hrs b4 suicide? Epstein introduced Trump to Melania? Your info, thoughts? (Original Post) bobbieinok Aug 2019 OP
It was maintenance. Cleaning up loose ends. nt Phoenix61 Aug 2019 #1
+ 1 n/t MBS Aug 2019 #3
DUzy worthy! Brother Buzz Aug 2019 #7
link please harumph Aug 2019 #2
Comments early in Twitter thread #epsteinsuicide--unable to post bobbieinok Aug 2019 #6
Previous incident may not have been a suicide attempt womanofthehills Aug 2019 #4
So What Does That Say About The "First Lady" Me. Aug 2019 #5
Hmmmm? IMO someway it was facilitated. brush Aug 2019 #8
It would explain why Trump was so sweaty yesterday Generic Brad Aug 2019 #9
Video?? womanofthehills Aug 2019 #10
If they cleared out the guards, I'm sure they switched off the cameras, too FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #12
"A person claimed..."? SCantiGOP Aug 2019 #11
On Twitter also..... must be true! whistler162 Aug 2019 #15
Well if an Internet Rando claimed it Codeine Aug 2019 #13
at worst he was murdered.......... Takket Aug 2019 #14
So..... SCantiGOP Aug 2019 #16
Nope... not what I said. Takket Aug 2019 #17
Killing yourself in prison is not as easy as you think... Dan Aug 2019 #18

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
6. Comments early in Twitter thread #epsteinsuicide--unable to post
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:29 PM
Aug 2019

The claimed gave no source.

Thought maybe Duers more adept at internet might have seen these claims somewhere

womanofthehills

(8,712 posts)
4. Previous incident may not have been a suicide attempt
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:26 PM
Aug 2019

George Conway Retweeted
Carol Leonnig
@CarolLeonnig
·
2h
People close to Epstein fear he was murdered...as Epstein told authorities someone tried to kill him in a previous incident weeks earlier. He was described as being in good spirits in recent days...

brush

(53,784 posts)
8. Hmmmm? IMO someway it was facilitated.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:30 PM
Aug 2019

The guy with extremely damaging info on many, many rich and powerful people, and in a federal jail under Barr's control, suddenly just kills himself?

Nah!

Naivete is not a good look.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
9. It would explain why Trump was so sweaty yesterday
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:32 PM
Aug 2019

He was sweating like a guilty man who had just ordered a hit and was deathly afraid he would get caught.

womanofthehills

(8,712 posts)
10. Video??
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:34 PM
Aug 2019
George Conway Retweeted
Preet Bharara
@PreetBharara
·
52m
There should be — and almost certainly is — video of Epstein’s suicide at MCC. One hopes it is complete, conclusive, and secured.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
11. "A person claimed..."?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:41 PM
Aug 2019

Well, that's enough for me. Must be true or anonymous person would have never claimed it.

Takket

(21,573 posts)
14. at worst he was murdered..........
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 02:49 PM
Aug 2019

at best his suicide was enabled.

but the idea that this guy was on "suicide watch" and was taken off only two weeks later just in time for him to kill himself is absurd.

people who know that much don't just up and kill themselves and no one "could have possibly seen it coming".

I am wondering who made the call to take him off suicide watch.......

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
16. So.....
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:08 PM
Aug 2019

A pervert child molester who is going to spend the rest of his life in prison committing suicide...........is an idea that is just too far-fetched to be believable?

Not saying that is what happened, but it certainly what is most likely to have happened, unless you are really hunting for the next great conspiracy theory. Maybe it was the same guys who faked the moon landing and created the AIDS virus in a lab.

Takket

(21,573 posts)
17. Nope... not what I said.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:12 PM
Aug 2019

I said I don't believe no one could have "seen it coming" that Epstein would commit suicide, and that I want to know who took him off the watch and why.

Dan

(3,564 posts)
18. Killing yourself in prison is not as easy as you think...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:31 PM
Aug 2019

There are questions that should be asked - such as:

1. Single person cell, double person cell, four man cell, or dormitory environment?
2. Prisons are a 24 hour active environment - they truly never shut down, someone is always watching.
3. A person that had been on suicide watch - even removed - is still monitored more closely.
4. He would have been considered a ‘high profile’ inmate - again watched closely.
5. Unless he was on a high tier, hanging in a cell block is hard - and not quick. One would say that it’s more likely he strangled than broke his neck with a hanging. I suspect that strangling take a little time (that is why question #1 is important).

My quick thoughts... and reference #5, I know that a person can strangle themselves in a single cell with sheet, cross legs on the floor....have to be pretty determined.

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