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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:47 PM Aug 2019

A bad owner dumped this wolfdog at a kill shelter when he got too big and too much to handle.




A bad owner dumped this wolfdog at a kill shelter when he got too big and too much to handle.
Luckily a sanctuary took him instead and saved his life!
His DNA testing came back as 87.5 % Gray Wolf, 8.6 % Siberian Husky, and 3.9 % German Shepherd 🐺🐶
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A bad owner dumped this wolfdog at a kill shelter when he got too big and too much to handle. (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2019 OP
That's basically a wolf with a little of dog thrown in. LisaL Aug 2019 #1
WHY would people purposely breed something like that. Blue_true Aug 2019 #16
Yuki the wolf dog. The shelter says that that angle exaggerates his size. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #2
thanks.more pics Demovictory9 Aug 2019 #4
He's still a very big boy peggysue2 Aug 2019 #26
Donation made. Disaffected Aug 2019 #9
.. Demovictory9 Aug 2019 #15
Very few people should own such a animal. It takes land, resources, and no kids aikoaiko Aug 2019 #3
Such hybrids should never be created. 2naSalit Aug 2019 #5
I thought breeding this much wolf into a dog, or rather, a bit of dog into a wolf, was illegal in emmaverybo Aug 2019 #6
Actually... 2naSalit Aug 2019 #7
Did not mean to imply the objective was to domesticate the wolves and I had forgotten that they, emmaverybo Aug 2019 #8
Based on the DNA, the wolf had a great grandparent who was a dog LeftInTX Aug 2019 #11
Amazing what DNA can reveal. NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #14
I am curious Bayard Aug 2019 #10
There's a thriving underground Codeine Aug 2019 #12
The wolf has a great grandparent who was huskie/shepard mix LeftInTX Aug 2019 #13
How does sonething breed with another something that is normally dinner for it? Blue_true Aug 2019 #17
I'm thinking a male wolf mated with a female dog. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #25
Wolves eat domesticated dogs. I can't get past that. Blue_true Aug 2019 #27
He's beautiful Raine Aug 2019 #18
the wolf sanctuary will be his home Demovictory9 Aug 2019 #19
Thanks ... that's the very best place for him! nt Raine Aug 2019 #21
Turns out it has been for years. He was abandoned at 8 mos Hortensis Aug 2019 #22
120 pounds? That's a lot of animal pecosbob Aug 2019 #20
I'm surprised Bayard Aug 2019 #24
At the link pecosbob Aug 2019 #29
I'll have to try googling this story. Bayard Aug 2019 #30
Sorry...the link was provided by someone posting in the thread, not the OP pecosbob Aug 2019 #31
that dog weighs more than me Skittles Aug 2019 #28
That looks full wolf to me. alphafemale Aug 2019 #23

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
1. That's basically a wolf with a little of dog thrown in.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:49 PM
Aug 2019

Presumably they don't make good pets, so I wouldn't necessarily assume the owner was bad.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. WHY would people purposely breed something like that.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:06 PM
Aug 2019

In the wild wolves make dinner out of dogs. Someone had to purposely breed that thing.

Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
4. thanks.more pics
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:59 PM
Aug 2019

he's at shy wolf sanctuary

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aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
3. Very few people should own such a animal. It takes land, resources, and no kids
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:54 PM
Aug 2019

That toddler motion kids make when they are young is often irresistible.

And really they need a couple of others to stay happy.

You kind of have to be ready to build and maintain your personal sanctuary if you go down this route.

And they are escape artists -- they can climb and dig.

2naSalit

(86,634 posts)
5. Such hybrids should never be created.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:37 PM
Aug 2019

Wolfdogs are not good protectors and can be dangerously unpredictable. It's a shame humans like to play gawd with other species as well as their own.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
6. I thought breeding this much wolf into a dog, or rather, a bit of dog into a wolf, was illegal in
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:56 PM
Aug 2019

many states just as owning, selling, putting a more than 5O percent wolf hybrid up for adoption is
breaking the law in some if not many places.

Agree thoroughly with your post.

Saw the result with Malamute whose breeding lines too close to cross-breed with too much wolf.
Malamutes are the closest dog breed to wolf. But illegal (and immoral) cross breeding can result in
an extremely strong animal with anti-social tendencies.

However, 100 percent wolves, the real McCoy, if humans nurture them from birth can become humanity’s best friend.

Wish I had the name of documentary about a couple doing just that in order to replenish wolf stocks in Yellowstone. A year after all had been released, they went to them. Of the footage of
those wolves climbing over the couple to lick their faces!

2naSalit

(86,634 posts)
7. Actually...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 02:03 PM
Aug 2019

the Dutchers did not nurture or train those wolves. They lived in a closed environment with them to study them. Wolves do remember people, though, as do other wild animals. They did not intend for them to be pets nor did they treat or accidentally make them pets.

Wolves need to be wild, not pets. They are not as devotional to humans as you imply in your comment. They are social animals but they will normally flee from humans than have anything to do with them, the Dutcher situation was a scientific study, that the wolves remembered them is a bonus rather than the objective.

Google search results for video about the Dutchers:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&source=hp&ei=sAVPXb7NGYuW0gKawJjwDQ&q=jim+and+jamie+dutcher+youtube&oq=Jim+and+Jamie+Dutcher&gs_l=psy-ab.1.9.0l5j0i22i30l5.786.5594..16798...0.0..2.839.5268.0j17j3j1j0j1j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....6..0i308i154j0i131j0i10j0i22i10i30.HDoZCiQAGlY

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
8. Did not mean to imply the objective was to domesticate the wolves and I had forgotten that they,
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 02:35 PM
Aug 2019

the Dutchers, did no hands on for the reason that such involvement would taint the study.

You got the wrong impression from my post. As shown, though not intended to, wolves can extend what the affection they have for their own to humans. This is rare. Who would advise, if she had any sense, that humans domesticate wolves.

I remember a first-hand story of a professor who got hold of a wolf cub. He brought him to work with him. Of course as he grew, he did damage and developed some behavior problems that might have indicated he was psychologically and physically in the entirely wrong environment.

I don't subscribe to the “Grizzly Man” school on wild animals, though I felt he had good, albeit misguided, intentions.

Thank you for a) correcting my mistaken impressions of the true narrative b) adding to knowledge
of it c) finding source on it!

LeftInTX

(25,347 posts)
11. Based on the DNA, the wolf had a great grandparent who was a dog
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 03:36 PM
Aug 2019

Who knows what the owner knew...it's kinda strange when you think about it....10 - 15 years ago 1/2 breed created. It mates with wolf, pups mate with wolf which has more pups who mate with wolf etc

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
12. There's a thriving underground
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 03:41 PM
Aug 2019

of wolf-dog breeders. They appeal to a certain sort of hillbilly.

LeftInTX

(25,347 posts)
13. The wolf has a great grandparent who was huskie/shepard mix
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 03:43 PM
Aug 2019

It could have been accidental if the mother was a wild wolf who mated with a dog. The pups of the mix would be raised as wolves. Generations later, someone gets a wolf and finds it is part dog.

Almost all American Bison are part domestic cow.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. How does sonething breed with another something that is normally dinner for it?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:13 PM
Aug 2019

That female wolf would likely have been a beast, smaller than a male wolf, but still much more powerful than a male dog.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. Wolves eat domesticated dogs. I can't get past that.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 06:15 PM
Aug 2019

Maybe a female dog was deep in heat and the wolf chose to have sex with it instead of killing it, that is possible because such animals are highly sensitive to smells and a female dog that is in heat likely gives off a scent during that period, I am not knowledgeable in that area, but that is the only thing I can think of that would have prevented a male wolf from killing it.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
18. He's beautiful
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:21 AM
Aug 2019

I hope they find him just the right home, where he's loved and cared by those who know how to do it. ?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Turns out it has been for years. He was abandoned at 8 mos
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 07:59 AM
Aug 2019

and is 12 years old now and not available for adoption. Explains why he looks just like any other happy fellow with a loving family.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
20. 120 pounds? That's a lot of animal
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:44 AM
Aug 2019

I recall when this became a trend some years ago as did breeding wild cats to avoid requirements for menagerie licences. Just so rich people could have a 7/8 mountain lion at home.

In the right environment probably not a problem, but in the wrong environment, as many of these animals live, they're a catastrophe waiting to happen.

Here's hoping for the best for a very impressive animal.

Bayard

(22,075 posts)
24. I'm surprised
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:03 PM
Aug 2019

Where did you see 120 lbs? I have 3 Great Pyrenees that are between 120-150 lbs. He looks a lot bigger than that.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
29. At the link
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 09:32 PM
Aug 2019
The 120-pound majestic wolf-dog has helped raise awareness after he was dumped off at a kill shelter by a previous owner before being given a second chance at life at the sanctuary.
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