I won't be voting for the president again, says Ohio farmer who backed Trump in 2016

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I won’t be voting for the president again, says Ohio farmer who backed Trump in 2016
Published Thu, Aug 8 2019 4:11 PM EDTUpdated Fri, Aug 9 2019 8:34 AM EDT
Jasmine Kim

Christopher Gribbs, a soybean farmer from Ohio whose family owns and operates 560 acres of land, says he won’t be voting for President Trump again in the 2020 election.

The Ohio farmer voted for Trump in the 2016 election along with more than 75% of rural voters in the farm belt.

Now Gribbs is pushing back against Trump’s trade policies and the retaliatory effects on American agriculture.

Christopher Gribbs, a soybean farmer from Ohio whose family owns and operates 560 acres of land, told CNBC on Thursday that he won’t be voting for President Donald Trump again in the upcoming 2020 election.

“I couldn’t vote for him. I have to protect my business,” Gribbs said on “The Exchange. ”

The Ohio farmer voted for Trump in the 2016 election along with more than 75% of rural voters in the farm belt.

“I was a Trump voter. I voted for the president,” he said.

Now Gribbs is pushing back against Trump’s trade policies and the retaliatory effects on American agriculture.

“It certainly frustrates me. ... He’s lost on trade in three different ways,” Gribbs said when speaking about how the president has disappointed him on trade deals.

Farmers are one of the biggest victims of the U.S.-China trade war. With China officially pulling out of purchasing U.S. agricultural goods, American farmers are losing their fifth-largest customer.

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[empedocles]

1. Mr. Gribbs is getting there. Still referred to President Trump - further along a

simple . . . trump will do.

[Roy Rolling]

20. He Misspoke

He didn’t mean he won’t vote for another weasel Republican like Trump again, he just means he’s surprised leopards are eating his face after voting for the Leopards Will Eat Your Face Party.

[empedocles]

25. .

[Ilsa]

30. I like it.

[JI7]

2. how does he feel about all the other stuff ?

[Hav]

14. He made that very clear

He sounds like a thoughtful person but as he literally said, he cares about protecting his business and he's fine with the other stuff that comes with a repub admin. In other words, all the other human factors and suffering aren't that important.

[Aristus]

29. He wanted to protect his business, so he voted for a staggeringly incompetent businessman

with more bankruptcies than Jupiter has moons?

[marble falls]

3. Buyer's remorse. He'll be paying for his folly or years.

[greymattermom]

4. If you find out that you bought a lemon,

you trade it in, right?

[greymattermom]

6. Even it it's the brand you've been buying for years.

It's not complicated. Why not use this argument in ads?

[marble falls]

8. The survey referred to in the story said 73% of farmers still support Trump ...

so a lot of the time they just double down. When they go bankrupt, the corporation farms will make lemonade at the auctioning of their farms.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. All farmers or farmers who voted for him? Think

it would be interesting to see an analysis of all who voted for him last time to see where the biggest loss in support is and why. Has any segment grown ? Etc etc. Would be good for targeting ads ( if we ran ads, that is). Hollywood zillionaires! Pony up

[Ilsa]

32. And so will his progeny, the next generation of farmers.

If they don't have to sell the farm, of course. Big Ag wins again.

[duforsure]

5. He likes threatening

And hurting others. Anyone who votes for someone like him knowing he's a pathological liar and a criminal, and a Russian asset gets what they deserve.

[The Wizard]

7. He's one

But how many think "keeping the coloreds in their place" carries more weight than keeping their farms?

[Botany]

9. Well Mr. Gribbs I hope you don't lose your farm but if you do oh well.

BTW What about Hillary's emails now?

<Now, his soybeans are selling at $9, right at the cost of production.>

[gordianot]

10. No amount of reasoning or information works on the willfully ignorant.

They have to experience it first hand. As for myself I have no sympathy.

[Iliyah]

11. Didn't the farmers get

socialized billion of dollars of taxpayer's money?

[lunasun]

12. China knows what it is doing imo.It's not trump it's the voters in a democracy and these voters will

only move away from him if it’s a personal hit.

[Cirque du So-What]

13. Yer ox got gored, huh?

To hell with the rest of the world until the fuckstick does something that affects your bottom line. Wait til he screws up your welfare payments for climate change-related crop losses.

[Turbineguy]

15. Somehow

"this fucking guy" sounds more apt than "the president".

[Baitball Blogger]

16. I'm sure Trump isn't done buying them.

[Major Nikon]

17. Thoughts and prayers coming his way stat

Anyone who didn’t see Trump for the con man he is was voting for their prejudices. Fuck them and the tractor they rode in on.

[yardwork]

18. Well said. Thoughts and prayers.

[Pepsidog]

19. I'm sure he has his hands out for "free stuff" from the government.

[Vinca]

21. The farmers should all be banding against Trump because China is now buying from other

countries. It took them a long time to build their businesses in China and it's going to be close to impossible to get them back.

[StarfishSaver]

22. There are plenty of people like him. But I doubt very many who didn't vote for Trump in 16 will vote

for him now.

Gives me hope.

[SidDithers]

23. Thoughts and prayers...nt

Sid

[FakeNoose]

24. These are the people that the Democratic Party must reach out to

We need a Democratic message for them, and we need a candidate who will appeal to the Midwestern farm states. These Americans aren't concerned about race or immigration, they just don't want to lose their farms. Chump took advantage of them and now they're really scared. It's becoming obvious that Chump's tariffs don't help anyone, and certainly not the small farmers.

[AllyCat]

31. I do not believe Democratic values are appealing to these people

They only care about themselves, not the other humans being enslaved, imprisoned, terrified, and tortured right now.

[FakeNoose]

40. FDR and the New Deal didn't hesitate to help the farmers

[AllyCat]

45. I'm not saying not to help the farmers.

I’m saying our values of human equality will not resonate with them.

[justgamma]

26. It's almost as if they

never heard a word Putin's puppet had to say. All they heard was an idiot hurling insults at everyone and they thought it was great. He told them what he would do. I have no sympathy for them.

[Lonestarblue]

27. I have a friend who's a farmer.

Last year, the payment to farmers was ok, though it didn’t fully cover their losses. This year, the formula for who gets what has been changed, and he is getting far less than last year. Given the power of the corporate farms, I suspect more of the money is going to them and less to the smaller farmers. That could make a difference in 2020.

If China wants to influence the 2020 election, all they have to do is refuse to negotiate any further with Trump. US exports account for only 20% of their GDP, and they can increase exports to the rest of the world (like trading oil for exports to Iran) to make up some of their losses. If Trump’s trade war debacle is still going on in November 2020, some of his base will desert him. Unfortunately, if the trade war is still going on, we’ll likely also be in a recession.

[58Sunliner]

28. I was a ding-dong and lost my clapper. Oh why did I not see the forest for the trees?

[packman]

33. Something about reaping what you sow - Biblical, I think

As a farmer he should have recognized manure when he saw it.

[FiveGoodMen]

35. Yes, but all of US also reap what THEY sow.

[packman]

38. True, domino effect could easily be in play

[Takket]

36. "Man is upset that drumpf is doing exactly what he'd said he'd do"

is an alternate title.

Bet you anything he'll vote 3rd party before he votes Dem, which is as good as a vote for drumpf.

[dalton99a]

37. +1. A very strong possibility

[Hortensis]

39. "I couldn't vote for him. I have to protect my business."

Another straw on the haystack.

[Hotler]

41. Too bad, I still don't feel sorry for you. I have two words for you...

boot straps

[pamela]

42. "I thought he was just going to hurt brown people, not me!" n/t

[smirkymonkey]

44. +1000

As usual, they love Trump because he legitimizes their selfish "me, me, me" attitude. It doesn't matter how much pain he is inflicting as long as they aren't his victims. But once they are feeling the pain, it's a different story. Now it's not fair!

[Vogon_Glory]

43. The burned hand teaches best

I hate to say this, but despite our appeals to reason, our higher nature, and other tactics, the only way all too many voters can turn away from people like Donald Trump is if they take some hard thumping.

Mr. Gribbs, we’re sorry that you’re having such a rough time, but we really thought you knew better in 2016.