NYT: The Con screamed at aids to produce proof that people in El Paso were happy to see him

[malaise]

Calling him a sick fuck does not describe this lunatic

[samnsara]

1. he is sick but the aides still working there are crazy...

[brooklynite]

14. Link?

[Mossfern]

21. link

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/us/politics/trump-dayton-el-paso-shootings.html?auth=login-email&login=email

[A HERETIC I AM]

45. NY Times links are behind a paywall for most of us.

[Fyrefox]

2. Trumpism as usual

As usual, Trump tried to make El Paso all about himself, bragging about his previous rally numbers there. He and his minions routinely try to mold reality to suit their own perceptions, and increasingly that act is not playing well...

[Mc Mike]

3. He also wants them to prove that his parents loved him.

And that he's not bald.

[True Blue American]

4. Or fat to the point of obese.

Like Little Kim who waddles around while his people starve.

2 of a kind!

[Mc Mike]

7. 2 peas in a pod.

Overstuffed sacks of shyte.

[Duppers]

5. Bingo. That's the root of his psychological sickness.

His parents.

[Mc Mike]

8. His constant stream of failures eats him up too.

Keeps failing, then desperately bragging about his 'successes'.

He's a mess, psychological-wise.

[True Blue American]

9. If Trump

Did not lie to convince himself he would be in a loony bin.. please do not tell him he is headed that way.

Understand, this is no reflection on people who really have mental problems. They suffer.

[Mc Mike]

10. Definitely ALL people who have mental illnesses are NOT evil. But there's some overlap

between the categories of 'mentally ill' and 'evil rotten pos rat bastards', in the Venn diagram.

There's also some overlap between those 2 categories and the 3rd one titled 'miserable constant failures'.

[True Blue American]

11. I have a friend who spent 11 years as a Nurse in the Mental Health Unit.

She never once knew of them killing. They only hurt themselves.

[Mc Mike]

13. There is a line between 'mentally unhealthy' and 'insane hateful ideology'.

There are people who do crazy things, and aren't diagnosably 'crazy'. But the poison of their ideology makes them act violently and irrationally.

[True Blue American]

15. Is there one of us who have not done crazy things?

Many, well educated, successful people have little common sense on certain subjects.

I can not even begin to understand the thinking of those who admire Donald Trump. To me he is the symbol of what is wrong with our Country.

[Mc Mike]

20. Well, now it's a matter of degree. Motivation, type of action, etc.

Vonnegut said the fascist mind worked like a cuckoo clock keeping time in hell. That they grind off some of the teeth of the gears in their minds, purposefully.

Killing Obergruppenfuhrer Fegelein by firing squad, while the bombs were dropping around hitler's bunker, was crazy. On the other hand, I have passed on the right in a disappearing merging lane in a fit of anger before. I bought some lottery tickets in the past, too.

We who do crazy things don't do the crazy things that 'non-crazy' nazis do. Not alike, in kind or degree.

[True Blue American]

25. David Guru

Just showed what Toni Morrison said.”They are in total fear of losing control.” Those are not her exact words but it is revealing of the thinking.

As a white person I do not feel that fear. It may be too simplistic as to what we are facing. I am much more fearful of the rage being generated by the White Nationalist whose sole existence is based on hate. That is the mental illness that bothers me.

I want a Country where we can live together.. On the other hand I am well aware of The racists who feed hate,too. Both blame anyone but me.

And it all starts with self.

[Mc Mike]

30. An equivalency exists, you mean, True Blue?

I'm more of an anti nazi american who isn't doing a lot of self reflection when it comes to action advocacy against pro nazis.

The left side does > 90% of the self reflecting done in this country and world. I'm not against studying the angles and reflecting on ideas and 'facts'. But I'll stand pat on not tolerating their intolerance. Self defense vs. civil war threats is intelligent and moral.

[FakeNoose]

40. Chump already has no self control

He can't lose what he never had.

[True Blue American]

12. Every Narcissistic Person

I ever knew was the result of deep insecurity.

[DinahMoeHum]

6. Can we now pretty please with sugar on top invoke the 25th Amendment??????????

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Love the graphic! Yes, with him you've got two

choices. Crazy or corrupt. But- Can't we do both!

[gordianot]

16. To think he smiled in photos and still got terrible ratings.

Of course my lead sentence is totally ridiculous but could seriously annoy Trump if strategically delivered. Some breathless reporter should scream out; “Why were you ratings so low in El Paso?”. It might be enough to burst an artery in his head.

[Talitha]

49. Get me an authentic looking Press I.D and I'll do it!!

[kentuck]

18. Is that spelled correctly?

In NYTimes headline?

[marlakay]

19. Just knowing how many people

In our country will vote again for him makes me want to puke.

[Submariner]

22. Look at the baby's expression

Like, my Mom was a nice Mom, why did you put me in the arms of a racist gold digging hooker with rubber kidneys on her chest?

[Mossfern]

23. Wouldn't the photo op

have come across better if Melania was holding the baby to her and Trump was paying attention to the child, not the "crowd?"
Why do some people admire "it's all about me" people? I just don't get it.

Well, that and a bunch of other things ...

[oldsoftie]

24. Its disgusting that the man pictured with trump has been getting hate mail

Slam trumpo all you want. Leave that other man alone.

[True Blue American]

26. He brought the baby to pose with Trump.

I feel for the murdered parents and the baby who is an orphan.

I keep thinking of Elian Gonzales and pawn he became of a drunken Uncle and foolish young cousin. While his Father was very much alive and what it took to get him back to his Father.

[sharedvalues]

28. No. You lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

Public shaming is a very important force. Democrats shouldn’t let Republicans get away with acting horrifically by screaming for “civility”.

That guy chose to appear in a picture with a man who incites domestic terrorism. He deserves the criticism he gets from social media, family, and friends.

[sharedvalues]

29. Also oldsoftie, why are you posting from WSJ and The Hill?

The majority of your DU Journal posts are from rightwing media. The Murdoch WSJ is not a source anyone here should read.

Maybe you’re pushing Republican talking points about criticizing the man in the photo because you read Republican talking points in the Republican Wall Street Journal?

[oldsoftie]

31. Ha! The fact that you consider 4 out of 16 OPs as "most" tells me you like to live in a bubble.

I dont.
Media Fact Check considers The Hill "left/center". It considers WSJ "right/center". Both are populated by long time well known journalists.
Just because someone might publish a story you dont like doesnt make them "rightwing media"

[True Blue American]

33. The Hill is now owned

By a Republican billionaire. I do not even read them any more.

[sharedvalues]

35. The Hill is owned by a Trumpite billionaire

And Media Fact Check is wrong. Jimmy Finkelstein is the owner. He’s a billionaire who acted as a Trump fundraiser. He used the Hill to criticize the media after people dared to criticize the president after the Correspondents’ dinner. He hired John Solomon at The Hill to smear Hillary. The op-Ed pages at the Hill are twisted by Republican lies.

As for the WSJ, if you enjoy being brainwashed by Rupert Murdoch, by all means please keep reading that conservative BS. I think patriotic Americans who care about equality and diversity and rule of law should ignore the WSJ and read the FT instead. And I will continue to tell anyone at Democratic Underground who posts stories from the Murdoch WSJ to evaluate their information choices.

[oldsoftie]

39. I judge based on the facts of any story. Which is what everyone should do.

Right winger trump loons are the ones who immediately dismiss stories reported by the "liberal media" as being "fake news" if its something they dont like.
Its odd that so many folks here do the exact same damn thing. I've never posted anything false.
Opinion pieces are totally different.

[sharedvalues]

43. So that's why you have those views

Propaganda can be subtle.

Moreover, none of us have the time to dissect each propaganda story from the Murdoch WSJ.

In fact, Murdoch used the WSJ to get trump elected. How? His editor did that by telling the newsroom to be less hard on Trump (google “Gerry Baker WSJ newsroom” for details.)

So how the heck are you ever going to be able to fight that by analyzing each story?
You can’t.
The propaganda is in the choice of topics, and in the way stories are written to highlight facts that make Dems look bad and omit facts to make Republicans look good.

Our only option is to say
“It’s run by a rightwing billionaire who uses it to harm us.”
And ignore it. And move on.

[oldsoftie]

44. I dont subscribe to groupthink. And i dont live in an echo chamber.

I read most big stories more than once from more than one source. Thats the only way to get the meat of a story. I was told that "most" of my OPs were from rightwing sources. Thats a LIE. And neither source is considered rightwing by Media Fact Check, and THEY are deemed reliable arbiters.
I just cant believe what i'm seeing here. Its the same stuff i see on FB every day about ignoring stories because of the source. Trumps favorite tool.
But hey, to each their own. My world is a big world. i like it that way. I play to win, and thats what i'm working for in '20

[sharedvalues]

46. Readers of WSJ are getting suckered by Murdoch

I wouldn’t want to be suckered by Rupert Murdoch.

Ps a friend of my husband’s worked in the WSJ newsroom. It is absolutely influenced by Murdoch to promote Republicans and harm average Americans.

[sharedvalues]

47. "Media bias fact check" is the Media BS Fact Check

Anyone who says THE HILL is center left is BS.

Come on.

[True Blue American]

41. You are exactly right!

[stopdiggin]

42. man painted his own target

Publicly proclaiming himself, and the child's dead parents, staunch Trump supporters .. and then rushing the traumatized child BACK to the hospital for a photo op with the Pres. (which has since been trumpeted across the media as a cringe-worthy ode to a stunning lack of empathy and situational ethics ..) But oldsoftie wants to sell it as this man "deserves to be left alone?" Perhaps after he stops pimping himself, and his battered nephew, out for photo ops? Like I said, HE painted that target. Live with it.

[Skittles]

48. what is disgusting is using an orphaned baby to pimp for Donald Fucking Trump

[sharedvalues]

27. Terrible NYT: quoting Republican liars

Typical crappy NYT article which merely quotes people from both sides, and the Republicans are lying. As usual.

Also this article highlights how the press got snowed by Trump. Are they proud of covering his constructed photo op so acceptingly? Why did the press not cover all the protestors outside the El Paso hospital?

The president puts together a propaganda photo op and the only reason it works is that the press covers it compliantly, without giving appropriate weight to the protests outside.

[True Blue American]

32. You get a huge

Thumbs up from me for that post.

I am sick to death of hearing Trump’s ignorant lies shown over and over again.

On another note I just came from the Library where the parking lot was full of monstrous trucks. We are having a big Parade and Festival. I had to park between 2 big trucks. When I came out people were every where.

I simply asked a Policeman if he would back my car out. He did and another Policeman gave me directions to get out.

This is the difference in real life and the constant Reality show we see on cable.

[sharedvalues]

34. Absolutely. Good story.

We’re caught between the legitimate media like NYT which is severely bothsidesist, the for-profit media like CNN and MSNBC which hypes drama and hate and strife for money, and the rightwing propaganda media like Fox and WSJ... which is designed to lie to us to get white people to vote for billionaires’ tax cuts.

Ugh. I say: turn off cable news, and read the WaPo, TPM, Atlantic, and New Yorker. Also listen to reality-based podcasts from Pod Save America to the Guaridan.

[True Blue American]

37. Watching the Kitchen

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Getting ready to take one of those books out on the sun porch.

Nice day out!

It is actually cool out there.

[highplainsdem]

36. Trump's attacking Haberman for this story:

Link to tweet

Maggie Haberman of the Failing @nytimes reported that I was annoyed by the lack of cameras inside the hospitals in Dayton & El Paso, when in fact I was the one who stated, very strongly, that I didn’t want the Fake News inside & told my people NOT to let them in. Fake reporting!

[True Blue American]

38. Trump just outed himself!