Canadian perspective: America's Next Civil War

[Pluvious]

This piece was an interesting read, some of the projections are sobering. Giving the many historical precedents used in comparison, it gets downright frightening.

This will not cheer you up

:-/

Note, it's been updated, but some of the references are months behind.

American chaos is already oozing over the border: the trickle of refugees crossing after Trump’s election has swollen to a flood; a trade war is underway, with a US trade representative describing Canada as “a national security threat”; and the commander-in-chief of the most powerful military the world has ever known openly praises authoritarians as he attempts to dismantle the international postwar order.

The US has withdrawn from the UN Human Rights Council, pulled out of the Paris climate agreement, abandoned the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, and scorned the bedrock NATO doctrine of mutual defence. Meanwhile, the imperium itself continues to unravel: the administration is launching a “denaturalization task force” to potentially strip scores of immigrants of their US citizenship, and voter purges—the often-faulty processes of deleting ineligible names from registration lists—are on the rise, especially in states with a history of racial discrimination.

News of one disaster after another keeps up its relentless pace but nonetheless shocks everybody. If you had told anyone even a year ago that border guards would be holding children in detention centres, no one would have believed you.

https://thewalrus.ca/americas-next-civil-war/

[cilla4progress]

1. Fully expect

all-out war before this is over.

Civil War in 1860s lasted 4 years.

[KPN]

2. And this was published 9 or 10 months ago. Things have only gotten worse since.

What frightens me most: the observation that often it's the oppressors who rebel, not the "people". And they have all their guns and ammo. The El Paso shooting -- is the civil war starting?

[roamer65]

3. We in the northern border states need to start the process.

Immediately give the Canadian dollar legal tender status. It is time to start the discussion of secession.

[Hekate]

5. Just curious: how, exactly, do you expect this would work?

Canada certainly is not going to embrace breakaway states and annex them. The US has already had one war over secession, and I don't see anyone winning this time.

[underthematrix]

4. Thank you so much for posting this article. We need more critical thinking

and analysis reads like this one. I appreciated the application of historical analysis to the our present situation in the U.S. Most of us FEEL the tension. Some of us are angered by it while others are frightened by it. I thought it was interesting how the authors suggest the polarization from "both" sides seems to be escalating. It made me think of Joaquin Castro's tweet abut the small donors in El Paso and parts of Texas who are actually funneling money to the Trump campaign while taking a public anti-racism position.

They also mentioned something that i found especially frightening. 45% of enlisted military personnel support Trump while only 30% of military leadership supports him. This may explain why Trump is still in office or why AG has not be indicted and arrested for violating many many federal laws.

This article suggest we need to stop thinking with our emotions and start thinking with our heads. We need to keep the HOuse. We need to win the Senate with at least a 60 vote margin. We need to win the White House. We need to win govships and control of statehouses and mayor ships and school board seats.

We need to decide that our representative democracy and our constitutional government is worth saving. Our political choices must be based on that instead of how we FEEL about a particular candidate.

I still say Rep Joe Kennedy III as our presidential candidate would get us the overwhelming win we need to get control over all three branches of government. White people would vote for him no matter what his policies were because he reflects a time when white people were our best hope for the future. I'm African American. I don't need a candidate of color or a woman like me. I just need someone who can help us save American democracy which I love so much.

[Pluvious]

6. I'm glad you found it worth reading too

It was sent to me from a Canadian friend.

They are horrified watching our shitshow play out.

It's like the Vietnam years again, taking in conscientious objectors.

My concern with elections 2020 is:
1. Fox Propaganda Network
2. Enabled Russian influence and hacking
3. GOP cheating (they are champs)
4. Voter despair and apathy

Four more years would spell the end of our Republic.