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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 07:33 PM Aug 2019

This post may be a little tiresome for some of you. Indulge a geezer if you are so inclined.

As our children reached the age when they were beginning to think about what they wanted to "be" after they were finished with their schooling, at one time or another they considered just about every career possibility from artist to astronaut; from engineer to architect; from teacher to Sno-cone vendor. We never pushed them toward or away from any of their dream careers. We encouraged them to find something they could love doing for a lifetime and admonished them that, before they became a "good architect" or a "good carpenter" or a "good nurse", first be a "good person".

Be kind and responsible and tolerant. Tell the truth, stand up for what you know to be right and decent and, yes, treat others the way you'd like to be treated. If you have more than you need, share it with those who do not have enough. Use your mind, your strength and your courage to make things a little better for those who come after you.

Love is the most important gift you can give or receive.

Everyone begins life entitled to respect without regard to their skin color, nation of origin, sexual orientation, faith or lack of faith. But, some lose our respect when their words and acts are intended to do harm to others. Avoid them if you can. Fight them if you must.

So, what is all this about?

Trump was not a good businessman and is not a good leader because he is NOT A GOOD PERSON. (a generous understatement, I know) Should that qualification not be at the top of our list when we evaluate a president? When all the legalese and carefully worded findings and Constitutional considerations are weighed, shouldn't "not a good person" be added to the scales?

Maybe I'm just hopelessly idealistic and naive.

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This post may be a little tiresome for some of you. Indulge a geezer if you are so inclined. (Original Post) Atticus Aug 2019 OP
LOL--when I saw geezer I didn't think of you. nolabear Aug 2019 #1
I agree. cwydro Aug 2019 #2
Idealistic truths are basic to all people. procon Aug 2019 #3
Apparently about 40% of the current population BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #4
I believe all of our candidates are good people. Basic decency has been completely missing The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #5
It may comfort you to know that I am a geezer (68) and just had this convo with Nay Aug 2019 #6
That is exactly the way I raised my two children. llmart Aug 2019 #7
This geezer thinks. safeinOhio Aug 2019 #8
"Treat others the way you'd like to be treated." This old geezer, like you, thinks... EarnestPutz Aug 2019 #9
About the geezer name...You are not alone..I'm a geezer to, and YOU ARE CORRECT... Stuart G Aug 2019 #10
Never tired of hearing the truth Atticus Pepsidog Aug 2019 #11
Nope, you're not naive and idealistic - your family values are the some ones I taught my kids. iluvtennis Aug 2019 #12
That was what I always trusted about President Obama. Even though I didn't agree with every decision Neema Aug 2019 #13
This old bat agrees with you completely. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #14
I just can't think of you as a geezer. murielm99 Aug 2019 #15
Thank you (I think), but I am a 70 year old gray-haired arthritic who is no longer constrained Atticus Aug 2019 #16
I am going to be seventy-one murielm99 Aug 2019 #17
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
2. I agree.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 07:37 PM
Aug 2019

And we don’t have a good person as president.

I doubt he even knows the meaning of such.

procon

(15,805 posts)
3. Idealistic truths are basic to all people.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 07:43 PM
Aug 2019

Regardless of culture, ethnicity, society, race, time or place, a handful of perpetual norms and ethical values are characteristic of all human kind. It's our shared kindred and it links us all together as brothers and sisters.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
4. Apparently about 40% of the current population
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 07:50 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:42 PM - Edit history (1)

would rather have a racist rapist in the W House. Our American values are questionable at this time in history. They know who and what he is made of when they voted for him, as well as the GOP enablers who love Russian and NRA $$$ more than decent human kindness and respect.

They are the party of hate and proud of it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212352064

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
5. I believe all of our candidates are good people. Basic decency has been completely missing
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 07:53 PM
Aug 2019

from Trump's administration because he attracts and hires people like himself (and we've seen how well that's been working out). I don't think government can work unless the people who run it are decent, that is, behaving in a way that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability, and Trump is the antithesis of that.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
6. It may comfort you to know that I am a geezer (68) and just had this convo with
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:07 PM
Aug 2019

my 12-yr-old grandson, including the drumpf part. That advice never gets out of date.

llmart

(15,539 posts)
7. That is exactly the way I raised my two children.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:52 PM
Aug 2019

It is how everyone should raise their children. However, I highly doubt trump's nazi supporters raise their kids with those values. Anyone who would support him knowing what he is just is not a good person or a good citizen in my book.

Trump's parents raised an evil no-good person who contributed nothing to this country in his entire lifetime.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
9. "Treat others the way you'd like to be treated." This old geezer, like you, thinks...
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:18 PM
Aug 2019

...that we all could use a little bit more of the "golden rule."

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
10. About the geezer name...You are not alone..I'm a geezer to, and YOU ARE CORRECT...
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:49 PM
Aug 2019
Trump is NOT A GOOD PERSON.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
13. That was what I always trusted about President Obama. Even though I didn't agree with every decision
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 10:08 AM
Aug 2019

he made, I always felt certain of two things. First, that he is a fundamentally decent and good person. Second, that he analyzed and agonized over every decision he had to make. I know some of them were terrible, no-win decisions, probably with details the American people knew nothing about.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
16. Thank you (I think), but I am a 70 year old gray-haired arthritic who is no longer constrained
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:31 PM
Aug 2019

by the need to "fit in" and, therefore, pretty much blurt out whatever is on my mind.

I think "geezer" is accurate.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
17. I am going to be seventy-one
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 08:44 PM
Aug 2019

at the end of the month. I guess I am a geezette. I have always been outspoken. It gets me into trouble now and then.

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