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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:51 AM Aug 2019

Growing up in Texas here is what I learned about El Paso.

My mother was born there in 1911. She describes the man called Pancho Villa who, she said, regularly rode into El Paso to "shoot up the town" (her words). She told me "we hid under the bed because bullets were flying through the windows." She never described why Villa did this. I assumed it was to terrorize the population (white) for some reason. And that's about all I could figure out based on her description (except something about a streetcar that went over the border and back).

We never visited El Paso even tho we visited relatives in other parts of Texas (I loved Brownwood where daddy's sister lived). So I guess I assumed El Paso was violent and we couldn't visit there for safety reasons.

I learned a lot about El Paso today and I wonder what my mother would say about Beto O'Rourke, who I now hold in greater esteem and respect that I did earlier (due to ignorance on my part about El Paso today).

This is not an endorsement of a candidate but an impression that I, as a white native born Texas now in her late 70s and a strong Democrat, have of a city that was important to my own family.



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Growing up in Texas here is what I learned about El Paso. (Original Post) CTyankee Aug 2019 OP
I lived in El Paso gopiscrap Aug 2019 #1
It sounds wonderful and diverse and it's clear that Beto is a big fan... CTyankee Aug 2019 #2
it is wonderful and diverse, lots of culture and history gopiscrap Aug 2019 #4
Pacho was fighting against the Hacienda owners Drahthaardogs Aug 2019 #3
lived there for two years qazplm135 Aug 2019 #5
An interesting article on the Pancho Villa-El Paso connection: Tanuki Aug 2019 #6
nice piece. I love the old photos! CTyankee Aug 2019 #8
Your mother was guilty of thinking that nothing had changed PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #7

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
4. it is wonderful and diverse, lots of culture and history
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:16 PM
Aug 2019

a dry warm temperate climate from what I experienced

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
3. Pacho was fighting against the Hacienda owners
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:13 PM
Aug 2019

Because even though New Spain's caste system was outlawed with independence, the Criollo simple took the place of the Penninsulare.

Basically he was fighting the Mexican Oligarchy that goes back to wealthy Spanish families. In the end, they bought Pancho his own Hacienda. He sold out.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
5. lived there for two years
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 01:42 PM
Aug 2019

it's your typical city. Nice parts, not so nice parts, nothing particularly special or violent about it. I certainly didn't feel endangered while there.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
7. Your mother was guilty of thinking that nothing had changed
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 02:06 PM
Aug 2019

since Pancho Villa went away. Many of us are guilty of similar things.

I have never been to El Paso. I don't live all that far away and should visit it some time.

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