Just now on Morning Joe - Counties hosting Trump rallies in 2016

[avebury]

show 226% increase in hate crimes then cities that didn't host one of his rallies.

Also reported in Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/22/trumps-rhetoric-does-inspire-more-hate-crimes/?noredirect=on

[malaise]

1. Get thee to the greatest page

RFN!

[Chemisse]

2. I just saw this on MJ and it is stunning!

If these statistics are valid, it is pretty direct evidence that Trump is inciting violence.

[avebury]

21. If the statistics could be proven it would position victims and/or

victims' families being able to file a class action lawsuit against Trump in civil court.

[Scarsdale]

3. A survey needs to be done on

how many cities that hosted his rallies have been paid for the extra security. El Paso held a rally, and tRump campaign never paid their bill of over $200,000 Taxpayers get saddled with that. VP Pence skipped out on his bill in Colorado, held at the restaurant owned by (oh, the horrors!) a gay man. He charged $35,000 a couple. These deadbeats are sucking off taxpayers enough. The authorities should demand payment up front, or refuse to let them hold a rally. THAT would cut down on hate speech.

[pangaia]

5. COME ON DNC, DCCC?

Hire some teenager to do your marketing, messaging !!!

[Hortensis]

14. You're kidding, right? THIS as an excuse to blame Democrats?

If you think some incompetent can do the job, why not give it a swing yourself? But only if you can find the Republican Party to shoot at.

[pangaia]

15. No, I am NOT blaming dems. But I am not kidding..

my point being that repubs have given us SO MUCH ammo to use against them..

USE IT !!! Like they do.. ONLY with the truth....

[Hortensis]

19. Take a good look at what this "ammo" did for you.

If it can't focus your passions and energies on stopping the right (crisis emergency!), why do you think it'd work the way you imagine it must for others?

The Russians put many millions of posts with the very same sort of demoralizing anti-Democratic messages as yours on social media because that "ammo" kills Democrats. Get it?

You recognize that messaging can be an action, so maybe think about what action you should be taking.

[True Blue American]

18. I understood Trump

Owed over $600,000 to El Paso.

He owes $17,000 to the tiny city of Lebanon, Ohio.

Now they are staring full fledged traing of Police Departments for mass killings.

Thank goodness Dayton had Police in the Oregon District. Responded in less than a minute, killed the gun man immediately saving dozens of lives.

All the while we have that thing is the WhiteHouse holding Hitleresque rallies.

Called the killer monstrous. Look in the mirror. Monster!

[NurseJackie]

4. Paywall. Ugh.

I can't get through.

[Ilsa]

6. Here's the core of the article:

How we did our research

Using the Anti-Defamation League’s Hate, Extremism, Anti-Semitism, Terrorism map data (HEAT map), we examined whether there was a correlation between the counties that hosted one of Trump’s 275 presidential campaign rallies in 2016 and increased incidents of hate crimes in subsequent months.

To test this, we aggregated hate-crime incident data and Trump rally data to the county level and then used statistical tools to estimate a rally’s impact. We included controls for factors such as the county’s crime rates, its number of active hate groups, its minority populations, its percentage with college educations, its location in the country and the month when the rallies occurred.

We found that counties that had hosted a 2016 Trump campaign rally saw a 226 percent increase in reported hate crimes over comparable counties that did not host such a rally.

[NurseJackie]

10. Thank you!

[dalton99a]

17. +1

[TryLogic]

24. I suggest also that Trump's campaigning targets persons who are most likely to engage in violence.

I have some example groups in mind, but the only group I think I should point to are males, and of course, racists.

[calimary]

28. Compelling.

[uponit7771]

7. K&R, more proof Trump is a dark force ... not just an a-hole but a dark force

[Ilsa]

8. The Post generalized how they did their research, but it needs

to be verified. I believe it is probably true. But you know what they say about statistics: methodology can create more than one impression or conclusion in something as subjective as how crimes are classified at the local level.

[bucolic_frolic]

9. The full Nazi

He's called himself a 'nationalist'. Yeah? Historians still debate Hitler's Nazi government. The focus has been on the war, of course, and the holocaust, of course again, but little attention is paid to the financial and economic aspects of the Nazi hierarchy. Those generals and the government bureaucracy were instruments of not only death but plunder. Gold, art, land, buildings, money - skimmed to private ownership, sometimes in Swiss bank accounts - Hitler had his own banker.

Have you noticed our public resources are being privatized by the thugs Trump has appointed?

[TryLogic]

25. Yes, good point.

[NewJeffCT]

11. and, many of these places have been stiffed

out of reimbursement for cleanup and extra security

[spanone]

12. K&R...

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

13. KNR..nt

[Gothmog]

16. Who is surprised by this?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

20. Kochs? Sinclair? Hannity? Limbaugh? Putin?

#TrumpsTerrorists.

[smirkymonkey]

22. K&R

and bookmarked. He needs to go. And the rallies need to stop and his twitter account needs to be shut down. This man is a danger to the people of this country.

[Cicada]

23. Be careful with studies not peer reviewed

If there is not a peer reviewed version of this I would be cautious

[TryLogic]

26. It is quite possible to do legitimate statistical analyses without waiting for peer review.

This does not appear to be challenging data to analyze.

[Cicada]

27. One discredited story makes people ignore 100 good ones

I think that we should be extremely cautious. I saw an interview with an author of the October 2018 NYT article on massive tax fraud by the Trump family. He described why the NYT performed extreme fact checking before publication. They used a dozen of the top tax experts in America to confirm their conclusions. They had to prove the accuracy of literally every word to outside lawyers. Because they knew an error would discredit not just the NYT but all journalism in the US. The cost of an error would be catastrophic. A single error will be used to discredit every valid claim.