This is what a 100-round drum magazine looks like from the Dayton shooting ...

[KelleyKramer]

This is what a 100-round drum magazine looks like from the Dayton shooting. Authorities say he had a .223-cal rifle with this attached:

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The manufacturer who created this magazine and the dealer who sold it are immune from liability under a federal law passed during the Bush Administration.

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Edit-- Here is what it sounded like......

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[calimary]

1. Good Grief!

[Pachamama]

2. Holy shit....

Slaughter machines....

[onecaliberal]

3. Masacre weapon

[BigMin28]

4. Weapon of mass destruction

Shouldn't be sold to civilians period.

[smirkymonkey]

7. +1000

Absolutely! There is no need for it. Period.

[rockfordfile]

5. Who needs something like that? I get it if you're in the Military.

[Recursion]

12. The military doesn't use them. Screws up the ergonomics

It makes the rifle much harder to aim accurately because there's way too much weight at the magazine well. The military only uses standard 30-round magazines, and rarely loads them to 30.

[Aristus]

33. Plus, they jam easily.

Not a desireble feature on the battlefield.

[sir pball]

35. The military does use them, but in a very limited capacity

It's a quick-and-dirty way to turn an M16 into an ad-hoc Squad Automatic Weapon, to spray a boatload of bullets at the bad guys and force them to keep their heads down (suppressive fire). Only remotely accurate if it's used while laying down, definitely ruins aiming from a standing position. Also much more jammy than a regular magazine.

ETA I have zero problem banning any magazines over 10 rounds. I'd be fine with 5.

[Codeine]

25. That's an awful option for a military rifle.

Imagine trying to scoot around in cover with some crap like that on your rifle. These are gimmicks for the civilian tacti-cool market and should be outlawed as they serve no legitimate sporting purpose.

[procon]

6. How is a something like that even legal for civilians? nt

[sakabatou]

11. I wonder that myself

[sir pball]

37. It shouldn't be.

The military does actually use them in very limited roles, for "suppressive fire" - sending as many bullets as rapidly as possible at the enemy, to make them hide while you regroup or charge. Absolutely nothing a civilian should ever be doing. Limit them to ten rounds, or even five.

[aeromanKC]

8. If you need this for hunting, you need a new hobby!!

You suck at hunting!!!

[MFM008]

19. Right

You couldnt hit a barn
Let alone a deer.

[Historic NY]

9. Thak God they neutralized him, the toll would have been much higher

[912gdm]

10. any hunter that needs that to hit a deer shouldn't be allowed to have a gun.

[Recursion]

13. The AR-15 isn't powerful enough for deer

It's illegal in most places to hunt deer with them because of that. And I think everywhere if you hunt with a magazine you have to limit it to 5 rounds.

[Hoyt]

14. Less there be any confusion, AR15s are highly lethal shooting humans.

They wouldn’t be as popular among whites wingers if not.

[Recursion]

17. I mean, they're deliberately less *lethal* than heavier rifles

If this had been a semi-automatic 30-06 there probably would have been more dead and fewer wounded. Their popularity is mostly a result of a deliberate marketing campaign rather than any fitness for any particular purpose.

[Hoyt]

23. Clearly advertizing of these weapons is part of the problem and why I think the manufacturers

should be sued.

Here's an ad for the rifle used at Sandy Hook:

?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale

[Recursion]

24. Abso-frigging-lutely

When we finally get the gun version of the Big Tobacco case I am convinced that ad is going to be People's exhibit #1.

[RichardRay]

15. Just to be clear, not in .223/5.56...

...but the AR-15 style weapons are available in a plethora of calibers, many perfectly fine for hunting. Folks even sort of into it (I’m not) can buy parts to convert between calibers, assuming they’ve got a barrel that will put up with it.

When the whole ‘assault rifle’ furor came up I spent several evenings digging through gun sites. There are definitely some legitimate hobbyists out there; there are also a lot of total whack jobs.

[ADX]

31. Nonsense...

...An AR-15 chambered in .223/5.56 can be used effectively for deer hunting...

[Drahthaardogs]

32. Anything smaller than a 6mm is illegal in Western states

For big game hunting.

[sir pball]

36. CT also

.243/6mm minimum. It's possible to harvest a deer with a .223, I've seen it done, but you need to be pretty close and get the shot exactly right. Most hunters aren't that skilled, IMO.

https://www.ct.gov/deep/cwp/view.asp?a=2700&q=487616&depNav_GID=1633

[pansypoo53219]

16. machine guns are not legal. how is this legal.

[Recursion]

18. Because it's not a machine gun

It fires 1 bullet every time you pull the trigger, just like your grandfather's hunting rifle.

Seriously, I can't stress this enough: this isn't about "guns that fire faster" this is about "guns that are marketed to sick aggrieved white guys". You could put that exact same drum on a traditional-looking wood "hunting" rifle. But nobody does.

[Evergreen Emerald]

26. No. We have no more sick aggrieved white guys than any other country.

It is the access to murder tools.

[Kaleva]

20. Machine guns are legal. You and and I can own one or more.

[Igel]

29. Automatic weapons are legal.

But they're very, very hard to acquire because the regulations are very restrictive.

My brother's been a shooter since the early '70s, has won various state contests where he lives, no violations of any kind for nearly 50 years, and if he wanted to buy one he'd have a really, really hard time. He could "borrow" one for inspection because he's also a federally registered firearm dealer, but buying it would be difficult. Note that he's been a dealer for the last 35 years (also without any problems).

This, btw, is a regulation going back to the '30s.

[Kaleva]

48. Regulations are not very restrictive if you or I can buy them.

If you can pass the background check, which most of us can, and pay the $200 stamp tax, you could purchase such a weapon.

The problem is cost. An automatic can cost around $20,000. Automatic weapons are not common so cost is high.

I guess we agree.

[MiniMe]

41. The same way that bump stocks are legal

The NRA

[uponit7771]

21. Come on !! Gumpers need that for rabbit shooting practice !!

[NutmegYankee]

22. The favorite I keep hearing is a herd of wild boar.

The excuses are ridiculous.

[NewJeffCT]

28. the real reason

is that they're afraid of "herds" of brown and black skinned people.

[NutmegYankee]

30. The race war they seem to dream about...

[Hoyt]

27. Anyone buying something like that ought to go into FBI database immediately.

Transfer should be controlled as well.

[Coventina]

34. To anyone who thinks they should own one: FUCK YOU!

You are a sick person!

[ADX]

39. There are dozens if not hundreds of thousands of these mags in the hands of the alt-right...

...so if you're saying that we on the left shouldn't own them as well, I've got two words for you and you know exactly what they are.

When these white supremacist motherfuckers start gunning people down, feel free to throw rocks at them but as for me and mine, we're gonna fight fire with fire, fuck that...

[Coventina]

40. So, you take yours to shop at Walmart? Or to the club at night?

[ADX]

42. Of course not...

...What's your point?

[Wednesdays]

46. You're a real work. No better than them.

If the alt right starts something, and it's illegal, we'll have law enforcement and even the military on our side. No need for us to hoard our own weapons of mass destruction.

And if law enforcement and the military don't support the law, then we have far more grave issues than what weapons the alt right possess.

[Act_of_Reparation]

55. "We'll have law enforcement and even the military on our side"?

That would be a welcome change of pace.

[Coventina]

47. That's where this weekend's shootings happened.

You need that WMD for "defense" then you must take it those places.

[ADX]

53. What the fuck are you talking about?

...You're not making even the slightest bit of sense.

I know literally dozens of people who own C-Mags and not one of them has ever shot anyone, let alone perpetrated a massacre.

Stop with the pearl-clutching bullshit...

[Coventina]

57. You were the one saying you need these evil things to protect you from

right wing attacks.

Well, the attacks are happening in stores, nightclubs, and community gatherings.

In order to (in your words) properly defend yourself, it follows then that you must be carrying these obscene things to these places as well. In order to defend yourself.

[honest.abe]

38. Unbelievable this is something that can be legally owned by almost anyone.

This has to stop.

[hunter]

43. That's pathetic.

If I was a genocidal asshole I'd use nukes.

Biological weapons would probably be more effective, but I prefer weapons of mass destruction that make a lot of noise.

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Yep, I'm mocking gun fetishists and their enablers. Probably too soon but they can all go fuck off and die.

[rockfordfile]

44. Where did he buy all that from?

[Paladin]

45. Exactly what the Founding Fathers envisioned when they came up with the 2nd Amend.

[Mike_DuBois]

49. I believe that it was

People owned cannons and entire ships of war (privateers) back then.

[Paladin]

54. Enjoy your stay. (nt)

[Mike_DuBois]

56. I am, thanks!

Appreciate the welcome

[VOX]

51. Christ, it's an ammo processor! Made and sold by death merchants.

Purchased by the unbalanced, far-right nutcases. Oh, but those video games!!

[mainstreetonce]

52. If he lived in his parent's home

And stored all those weapons, are they complicit?