8chan's content delivery network is dropping them because of the shootings. They could

[applegrove]

Last edited Mon Aug 5, 2019, 04:36 PM - Edit history (7)

be offline tonight. They are not a "platform" per se. Sorry for saying they were.

"Brian Stelter CNN


Cloudfare cuts off 8chan
The racist essay was first posted on an 8chan message board. CNN noted that El Paso was "at least the third atrocity linked to 8chan this year." Fredrick Brennan, the site's founder, told the NYT and WaPo that the site should be shut down.

"The problem," Brennan told CNN's Sara Sidner, "is the current administrators are running it in a way that is indefensible. If it's going to keep on like this it should be shut down. I don’t want to pile on but they are not doing anything to solve this. They should at least shut down the board for a week or a month after something like this. They are letting their users incite violence."

In the wake of the attack, reporters renewed their scrutiny of Cloudflare, the US company that helps keep 8chan online. Initially on Sunday Cloudfare said it had no plans to stop providing services to the message board. But on Sunday evening the company did an about-face and said 8chan would be cut off at midnight Pacific time.

The message board will probably find other ways to remain online. But as Donie O'Sullivan wrote Sunday night, "this decision certainly feels like an important moment in the history of the internet. Cloudflare is setting a precedent, a precedent it didn't want to set." CEO Matthew Prince says "we continue to feel incredibly uncomfortable about playing the role of content arbiter and do not plan to exercise it often..."


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212348284

https://www.cloudflare.com/lp/cdn-x/?_bt=353550404820&_bk=cdn&_bm=e&_bn=g&_bg=72444006878&_displaycampaign=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhJrqBRDZARIsALhp1WRaY-AERId7qVRB8OPz-nWJc_l2D1khPh-Xp4bHWov7Aw2ezjhI-SkaArndEALw_wcB

[tblue37]

1. Deplatforming has helped weaken some of the neo-nazi groups. Maybe this will help. nt

[applegrove]

5. Maybe it has to be a permanent onslaught against those web platforms

that support them. Maybe we never let up.

[Initech]

2. Womp womp!

[TheBlackAdder]

3. They could also release their client database to the Feds. But will they?

[RichardRay]

7. I wouldn't expect the data to be very useful

What’s the likelihood that anybody on 8chan provided any real ID information? I’d certainly be surprised if very many did.

[blogslut]

4. took them long enough

[Thekaspervote]

6. It's a start! The real target should be fux news!!

[Ilsa]

8. I'm guessing they will go to the Dark Web, Tor, etc.

Probably not too hard for FBI to continue watching them if trump hadn't cut their budget 70%.

[Roland99]

9. #Ban8Chan

[ProudLib72]

10. I have zero problem banning social media platforms that preach terror

I'm sorry, but we should be able to use some common sense when it comes to the freedom of speech. There is such a thing as the Brandenburg test.

The Brandenburg test was established in Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 US 444 (1969), to determine when inflammatory speech intending to advocate illegal action can be restricted. In the case, a KKK leader gave a speech at a rally to his fellow Klansmen, and after listing a number of derogatory racial slurs, he then said that "it's possible that there might have to be some revengeance [sic] taken." The test determined that the government may prohibit speech advocating the use of force or crime if the speech satisfies both elements of the two-part test:

The speech is “directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action,” AND
The speech is “likely to incite or produce such action.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/brandenburg_test

I truly believe we are guilty of erring on the side of caution. We have been too permissive, and now we are inundated with hate groups posting all sorts of crap. If any area of the law requires immediate scrutiny, this is it.

[torius]

11. Cloudflare is not a host

It’s a CDN. It protects sites. Lots of people use it for free and paid. They are not a platform.

[applegrove]

12. Thanks.

[applegrove]

13. There is information at the bottom of this DU post.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212348284

[torius]

15. This site is now open to DSoS attacks

But it’s still up. Not going to link to it, but you can check. Everything is up except if you look at some parts of it it says there will be some downtime as they update their servers and cooperate with law enforcement.
Possibly they can find a replacement for cloudflare like the Daily Stormer did.
Hopefully Anonymous or somebody is going to wreck it tonight

[applegrove]

16. Thanks. Now i get it.

[PSPS]

14. Do you know who hosts the site itself? That's where pressure needs to be applied.

[torius]

17. Don't know

Maybe they do it themselves. I think most hosting companies do not allow this kind of thing. Though maybe there are some that do