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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's so easy to see the connection
between MF45's rhetoric and the gun violence that plagues our nation right now. No one is trying to claim that "we didn't know what was in his heart" or any other silly mantra that comes up when these things occur. We see the cause...we know the effect. There is no argument
Russia hacked us. The only trickle of reporting we have seen in these past years has been that "it's worse than we thought" and then oh, remember how bad you thought it was after we let you know it's worse than you thought? well it's *EVEN* worse than that. The conservative press has allowed it to go from "meddling" to "interference"
And yet, reflexively, people toe the line of the Russian warriors to accomplish Putin's end...that no votes were changed, kept from being counted or in any other way hacked. It's bizarre, really, because the Russian HACK of the 2016 election is the biggest attack on our country in the history of our country.
They hacked everything. It's worse than we thought. Oh, wait...it's even worse than that, but they STOPPED at vote switching, or keeping certain votes from being counted. They hacked voter files, but stopped short of vote switching, or keeping certain votes from being counted. Each weird return was somehow juuuuuuuuuust past the margin of error, but they didn't pull anything with the votes.
They kept pissing on our boots, and telling us it was raining.
It's still happening now.
Snarkoleptic
(6,002 posts)Trump wanted to start a race war.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/402512-omarosa-i-believe-trump-wants-to-start-a-race-war
We have a lot to lose right now, Manigault Newman said on MSNBCs Politics Nation, referencing Trumps appeal to African-American voters during the 2016 campaign.
I believe he wants to start a race war in this country, she added.
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)chaos is what Putin wants.
ewagner
(18,964 posts)...it's just that Trump is doing exactly what accomplishes Putin's goals...destroy the United States from within...
create chaos
create mistrust
create total mistrust of our own government, the intelligence agencies, the courts...every institution
create racial hatred and violence
create a divide between America and her Allies
create confusion in foreign policy
The winner...in the end...is Putin
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)we are at war, whether we like it or not
ewagner
(18,964 posts)thought that was implied.
my mistake.
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)I didn't think it was implied ...but we're all on edge lately
Botany
(70,589 posts)Russia was into all 50 states.
Putin had his people looking into the hardware and software of the voting machines and
central tabulators.
Russia hacked voter rolls in many states.
Russia was in @ least 4 counties in Florida and those counties were electronically linked to
the other 62 counties.
A member of the Russian Duma bragged about the election rigging and how it was a victory
for Russia.
Russia had to have inside help.
Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, and Kevin McCarthy all knew about the Russian attacks
prior to the election.
Exit Polls had HRC clearly winning.
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)Botany
(70,589 posts)Miners for Trump in Luzerne County, PA was Russian
Web sites that protested the NFL players kneeling such as, "Stand for the Flag, Stand for
the Troops, and Stand for the Anthem" were out of St. Petersburg.
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)lots of eyes on those super market covers
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)people around the globe with advanced computer skills can access our voting systems, spread hate, incite violence and spread terroristic dogma via an open pipe that is our beloved internet, yet we have no access to subpoena or even interview suspects involved in that mischief. Evil people are allowed to hide behind a digital mask.
Seems like a one-way street that inhibits justice.
Such was the case with a large number of people Mr. Mueller would loved to have talked to.
KY...........
Botany
(70,589 posts)Trump after Mueller appointment: "This is the end of my presidency. I'm fucked."
Spoken like an innocent man.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)They don't care what it takes so long as it achieves and maintains power on behalf of their plutocratic supporters. Divide and conquer is their motto. My memory goes back through Nixon.
It's a crying shame our public cannot see the international complex web of financial backing given to these haters of democracy.
Trump, Pence, all their cabinet and most every GOP congressperson are simply useful idiots for the big money boys, including Putin.
We'll notice they never say anything bad about any of those people from whence their bread and butter comes.
Botany
(70,589 posts)... brother was Ray Shafer, Governor of PA. You would never meet a better man
and he was a Republican too. Those days are long gone.
BTW Nixon had him do a report on marijuana and Gov. Ray took it seriously and
hired scientists and social workers and educators and his result was, legalize it
it is not a problem. Nixon deep sixed the report.
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)by Russian operatives.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)my presidency" When did that begin, exactly? He can not even ACT presidential. Not that it makes an ounce of difference to the traitors in the gop. Moscow Mitch prevented the evidence of Russian interference while the campaign was ongoing. He threatened President Obama that if the subject was brought up "it will look completely political" Why does Ivanka have Trademarks on voting machines???
Perseus
(4,341 posts)What is going on that Pelosi doesn't want to support impeachment inquiries? We need to get all the information, why is she and some other Democrats against it? It makes no sense to me.
That excuse of "we will defeat them in the ballots" is bull, nothing is being done to protect the election, nothing is being done to change the voting machines that we know can be hacked. There are plenty of videos on youtube that prove it.
We will not defeat them through votes, they will cheat like they did in 2016. I am convinced that Hillary won all the Electoral College states as well, the creature's margins were suspiciously low, just enough to turn the result in his favour, don't tell me that was a coincidence, that was planned hacking, and Pelosi doesn't want to get to the bottom of it? Why not?
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)Nancy is on a tight rope balancing justice and democracy.
President Pence can drive the getaway car to protect himself and let them get away with it.