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Eugene

(61,919 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:25 PM Aug 2019

Climate Could Be an Electoral Time Bomb, Republican Strategists Fear

Source: New York Times

Climate Could Be an Electoral Time Bomb, Republican Strategists Fear

By Lisa Friedman
Aug. 2, 2019

WASHINGTON — When election time comes next year, Will Galloway, a student and Republican youth leader at Clemson University, will look for candidates who are strong on the mainstream conservative causes he cares about most, including gun rights and opposing abortion.

But there is another issue high on his list of urgent concerns that is not on his party’s agenda: climate change.

“Climate change isn’t going to discriminate between red states and blue states, so red-state actors have to start engaging on these issues,” said Mr. Galloway, 19, who is heading into his sophomore year and is chairman of the South Carolina Federation of College Republicans. “But we haven’t been. We’ve completely ceded them to the left.”

While Donald Trump has led the Republican Party far down the road of denying the scientific consensus of human-caused climate change, Mr. Galloway represents a concern among younger Republicans that has caught the attention of Republican strategists.

In conversations with 10 G.O.P. analysts, consultants and activists, all said they were acutely aware of the rising influence of young voters like Mr. Galloway, who have never lived through a colder-than-average month and identify climate change as a top priority. Those strategists said lawmakers were aware, too, but few were taking action.

“We’re definitely sending a message to younger voters that we don’t care about things that are very important to them,” said Douglas Heye, a former communications director at the Republican National Committee. “This spells certain doom in the long term if there isn’t a plan to admit reality and have legislative prescriptions for it.”

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/02/climate/climate-change-republicans.html
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Climate Could Be an Electoral Time Bomb, Republican Strategists Fear (Original Post) Eugene Aug 2019 OP
Others will not listen in the GOP... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2019 #1
meaning we should have made Al Gore president DBoon Aug 2019 #2
Exactly..... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2019 #3
His fellow repukes will find his lack of faith disturbing Brawndo Aug 2019 #4
Yeah, because electoral prospects are most important... Bradical79 Aug 2019 #5
+1 bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #11
You must have missed the memo...you work for the one percent. pecosbob Aug 2019 #6
And there's really only one question I have after reading this article . . . hatrack Aug 2019 #7
July August 2020 likely to be hotter than July August 2019 (July 2019 hottest on record, full stop). Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2019 #8
Climate change is accelerating and people know it bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #9
I find it funny that two of the issues that are so important to so many republicans smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #10
I know, right? mountain grammy Aug 2019 #28
Let me tell you that I watched local Florida news at noon today malaise Aug 2019 #12
Well, they better get used to it . . . . hatrack Aug 2019 #13
Isn't that the truth malaise Aug 2019 #15
It rolled into my favorite beach in Freeport Texas in 2000...haven't been back since then pecosbob Aug 2019 #18
I can see why malaise Aug 2019 #19
I hear you mon Pluvious Aug 2019 #31
The earth has cancer Disaffected Aug 2019 #33
What are the predictions for red tide this year? Poiuyt Aug 2019 #34
Then stop fearing for your political hides and do something about it! Zambero Aug 2019 #14
Let 'em burn. GeorgeGist Aug 2019 #16
Republicans have backed themselves into a corner on climate change Calculating Aug 2019 #17
"an impartial scientific perspective" trev Aug 2019 #23
Very soon, environmental collapse will not be a political issue. Saviolo Aug 2019 #20
Since when are they're R's who are more concerned about climate change ----and a whole host of other Doitnow Aug 2019 #21
When the Ayn-Randian assholes figure out a way to privatize this issue, they'll be all in on it. VOX Aug 2019 #22
How do they brainwash these people? bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #24
Well, if he has enough guns, maybe that kid can shoot climate change and make it go away. lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #25
The only thing that will make Rethuglicans do something about climate change is when it gets TOO HOT BamaRefugee Aug 2019 #26
Don't worry, when it's too late to deny, they'll blame Democrats & declare themselves the heroes. NBachers Aug 2019 #27
which would be worse than the time bomb barbtries Aug 2019 #29
Dear Millenials SCVDem Aug 2019 #30
So is sexism, racism, feudalism... Gore1FL Aug 2019 #32
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 #35

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
1. Others will not listen in the GOP...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:29 PM
Aug 2019

Regarding Climate Change. From Trump on down, warming of the planet, the melting of ice sheets in the Arctic, extreme weather cycles, heat records, etc., is of no concern.

As many Climate Scientists have said, we are 10 years or more behind on this subject regarding action to slow the damage down.

DBoon

(22,383 posts)
2. meaning we should have made Al Gore president
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:36 PM
Aug 2019

The candidate who clearly lead in vote totals.

As opposed to the one installed by the right wing SC.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
5. Yeah, because electoral prospects are most important...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:38 PM
Aug 2019

Fucking idiots. You recognize an exisential threat, but guns and abortion are the real issues that matter

hatrack

(59,590 posts)
7. And there's really only one question I have after reading this article . . .
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:41 PM
Aug 2019

Are Young Republicans concerned about this because they foresee a steadily worsening and chaotic climate in which whole nations destabilize, and in which it becomes increasingly difficult to do basic stuff like, say, grow crops?

Or are Young Republicans concerned about this because it might hurt their party's chances of winning elections in the future?

Judging by the quotes - from them and their older compatriots - it looks like it's about 10% the former and 90% the latter.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
9. Climate change is accelerating and people know it
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:48 PM
Aug 2019

People generally want to believe that their future looks bright. That is no longer the case. The GOPers and the science denial petro lobby groups are on the wrong side of history. You can’t negotiate with scientific truths. There is no room for political common ground.
The GOP built its platform on science denial. They are desperate to cover their core beliefs up. Yet everyone of these idiots has left a record of their willful ignorance for prosperity to damn their memory.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. I find it funny that two of the issues that are so important to so many republicans
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:50 PM
Aug 2019

are gun rights and abortion. They just seem like very incompatible issues if one is being completely honest with oneself.

mountain grammy

(26,638 posts)
28. I know, right?
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:43 PM
Aug 2019

pro life for the unborn and pro death for everyone else.. guns and fossil fuels will accomplish much of that..

malaise

(269,103 posts)
12. Let me tell you that I watched local Florida news at noon today
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:54 PM
Aug 2019

People were screaming about the sargassum seaweed all over the beaches - as fast as you clear it, more comes in with the waves. And it's all over the Caribbean, Tropical Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico as well.

hatrack

(59,590 posts)
13. Well, they better get used to it . . . .
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:59 PM
Aug 2019

This didn't happen overnight, and like everything else, now has behind it the awful momentum of long-term climate and biological shifts that were centuries in the making. Now that it's utterly, undeniably visible, and worsening steadily, suddenly it's a "problem".

Too bad we didn't listen to James Hansen, and that was 31 years ago and counting.

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
18. It rolled into my favorite beach in Freeport Texas in 2000...haven't been back since then
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 02:44 PM
Aug 2019

The same year my wife passed. But ten years before that it was tar balls washing up from leaking oil rigs. Before that it was the local oysters becoming inedible due to heavy metal contamination. Before that it was my childhood neighborhood sinking under Galveston Bay from subsidence due to the refineries pumping out all the groundwater for their processes.

Spent the first forty years of my life within a stone's throw of the ocean. Served in the Navy. Once was blessed to witness a porpoise pod in the Pacific that numbered in the tens of thousands. Now I live in the Mojave.

I really need to go smoke some pot.

Pluvious

(4,314 posts)
31. I hear you mon
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 04:09 PM
Aug 2019

I've said this before, humans are such a dysfunctional species.

We'd behave a whole lot different if we lived lives of a 1000 years or more.

It's hard to avoid despair over what a mess we're leaving our descendants to deal with.

Disaffected

(4,559 posts)
33. The earth has cancer
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 04:56 PM
Aug 2019

and humans are the cells - some more malignant than others. Eventually, as is the case with most untreated cancers, we will kill the host. There will possibly be a resurrection later but it will likely take millenia.

Zambero

(8,965 posts)
14. Then stop fearing for your political hides and do something about it!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 02:03 PM
Aug 2019

When it doubt, doing the right thing invariably works best. It's telling indeed that these "strategists" feel the need to weigh the future habitability of the planet against political blowback, lest they offend those who strive to maximize profits regardless of immediate and future impacts.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
17. Republicans have backed themselves into a corner on climate change
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 02:41 PM
Aug 2019

It's basically become a matter of party identity and tribalism rather than the scientific/policy problem it should be. They view climate change as 'one of those democrat issues' rather than from an impartial scientific perspective. If there was an issue such as toxic water poisoning their children they would listen to the scientists saying we should do something, but with climate it's always a 'democrat wealth redistribution hoax'.

trev

(1,480 posts)
23. "an impartial scientific perspective"
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:20 PM
Aug 2019

RWers have been eschewing science since 1925. It has become impossible for them to be impartial.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
20. Very soon, environmental collapse will not be a political issue.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:12 PM
Aug 2019

I've said it before.

It will be a crisis everywhere. It's already a crisis. We're seeing 100-year storms every couple of years. Massive wildfires beyond anything we've seen. Droughts, rising sea levels, melting ice caps, temperatures rising, crops failing. Drastic measures need to be taken, and quickly. This isn't an abstraction, the entire west coast was on fire last year. This has nothing to do with your chosen candidate, has nothing to do with a political party or platform, this is an actual crisis.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
21. Since when are they're R's who are more concerned about climate change ----and a whole host of other
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:14 PM
Aug 2019

things besides the almighty dollar. Anything they talk about now is TOO LATE to clean up their names.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
22. When the Ayn-Randian assholes figure out a way to privatize this issue, they'll be all in on it.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:18 PM
Aug 2019

Because the free market fixes absolutely everything.

But I’m expecting this to actually occur in the nationalist United States.

bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
24. How do they brainwash these people?
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:21 PM
Aug 2019

More people facing more guns and a hostile climate is not a very appealing political message. DUH! He shouldn't be worried. He should question his beliefs.

BamaRefugee

(3,484 posts)
26. The only thing that will make Rethuglicans do something about climate change is when it gets TOO HOT
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:29 PM
Aug 2019

to hold their guns.

NBachers

(17,130 posts)
27. Don't worry, when it's too late to deny, they'll blame Democrats & declare themselves the heroes.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:32 PM
Aug 2019

Their vicious cult will lap it up and hate the libruls even more.

barbtries

(28,808 posts)
29. which would be worse than the time bomb
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 04:00 PM
Aug 2019

it represents to the entire planet and all the life upon it.

i really hope enough people are paying attention to recognize that and vote them out. we'll need huge, massive turnout to defeat the corrupt and feckless republicans with all their unethical ways to win.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
30. Dear Millenials
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 04:09 PM
Aug 2019

I know student loan debt is a large bill, but do you pay your own electric bill?

Do you run the a/c or buy food and gas?

When your apt is 100 degrees you will wonder about why abortion and the 2nd were even important to you. They do not affect your quality of life.

Try to sleep without the air con.

The heat kills! Do not support climage change deniers or pols who want more oil and coal.

I'll be dead while you bake.

Good luck with your purity of purpose.

Gore1FL

(21,134 posts)
32. So is sexism, racism, feudalism...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 04:24 PM
Aug 2019

Practically every GOP policy is a long-term "Electoral Time Bomb."

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