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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 11:58 AM Aug 2019

TV Networks Stuff in More Commercials Despite Vows to Cut Back

The amount of commercial time on cable TV keeps increasing as networks try to make up for shrinking audiences by stuffing more ads into every hour of television. That’s despite years of promises to cut back on ads. Last quarter, commercial time rose 1%, according to Michael Nathanson, an analyst at MoffettNathanson LLC. After declining in 2017, the volume of ads increased every quarter last year and expanded again in the first half of 2019, he said.

As TV viewership declines and more consumers jump to streaming services like Netflix, media companies have only a couple of options to generate the advertising revenue that Wall Street expects: They can raise prices, run more commercials or do a little of both. “Look at the decline in ratings,” Nathanson said. “Everyone’s got pressure to make their quarterly numbers. Long-term, it’s a very bad decision, but you don’t want to miss your numbers and have your stock go down.”

The big issue isn’t the total amount of commercial time -- but the long breaks that viewers must endure, Shimmel said. “If you have to wait six minutes for your content to come back in a world where people have remotes and can quickly switch to Netflix or Hulu, that exacerbates the issue,” he said. Too many commercials probably isn’t the main reason people cancel their cable-TV service, he said. “But it’s definitely in the top five.”

Long-term, the creeping increase in ad loads should be a worry. Nathanson’s firm surveyed consumers and found that “the No. 1 reason people like Netflix is because it’s commercial-free.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-02/tv-networks-stuff-in-more-commercials-despite-vows-to-cut-back?srnd=premium

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grumpyduck

(6,241 posts)
4. Has it occurred to the geniuses at the top
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:08 PM
Aug 2019

that maybe part of the problem is the content? That better programming might help?

LakeArenal

(28,829 posts)
9. Oh gawd yes.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:02 PM
Aug 2019

I read that most countries do not allow drug ads. So naturally we are #1 in annoying drug ads.

ooky

(8,926 posts)
6. Thank goodness for the DVR,
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:20 PM
Aug 2019

although I'm sure they are working on ways to prevent using it to bypass their "Flo and Jamie" commercials.

tinymontgomery

(2,584 posts)
13. DVR is great
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 02:43 PM
Aug 2019

DVR is great, I just speed past the commercials. Also on the loud commercials, if we're watching it just in normal time, we put it on mute and get our drinks, desert, or just talk while we wait for the show to come back on. So adding more commercials and making them louder is a waste trying to get our attention.

Auggie

(31,177 posts)
7. What's happening is a major evolution in media and shifting of viewing habits...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:38 PM
Aug 2019

streaming is supplanting traditional cable which supplanted traditional broadcast decades earlier. Survivors are struggling to turn profit in a dying industry. Solution? Run as as many commercials as possible.

TBS, AMC, The CW, Nick at Night. Ugh.

elocs

(22,590 posts)
8. I can remember recording Star Trek episodes on VHS and they were 51 minutes long
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:55 PM
Aug 2019

without commercials and promos. Today that is more like 42 or even 41 minutes for an hour long show. It seems like you can't go more than around 7 minutes of show time before there is a commercial.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
10. Their solution to falling viewership is more commercials, causing greater loss of viewership.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:22 PM
Aug 2019

They need to evolve or they are going to die.

lpbk2713

(42,763 posts)
11. Six minutes is correct.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:23 PM
Aug 2019



I was watching something last night on the Lifetime cable channel and it occured to me the commercial breaks were rather long in duration. So I timed one and it was just that, six minutes. That gave me plenty of time to turn the channel and get interested in Office Space. Their breaks didn't seem as long.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
14. The main reason people kill their cable TV service is cost.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:36 PM
Aug 2019

I do a mix of free streaming, OTA digital TV and the cheapest Dish package.

Since I live in an urban area, I get about 27 “usable” channels OTA via antenna.

hunter

(38,321 posts)
15. Once you quit "traditional" advertising supported television you never go back.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 04:11 PM
Aug 2019

My wife and I quit about ten years ago. No cable, no satellite, no broadcast. Our television plays DVDs and Netflix. That's all it does. Occasionally we rent DVDs from the neighborhood Redbox.

These days there's no way in hell I'd suffer television again. You'd have to strap me to a chair and hold my eyes open like this:

wikipedia

The television in our oldest kid's home is as dumb as ours, and like us they don't have cable, satellite or broadcast.

They don't even leave the television remote out. When they want to turn the television on or off, they walk up to it and push the power button. Everything else they control from their phones via a chromecast dongle. I don't know what streaming services they subscribe to, but Netflix is one. Netflix is the only television we have in common with our children.

If traditional advertising supported television isn't picking up younger viewers it's doomed as a business model. My mother-in-law and my dad still watch television news but none of their children or grandchildren do.

It's possible I'm too cheap to subscribe to any other streaming services. An inexpensive DSL connection, which my wife and I would have anyways, and an $8.99 a month Netflix subscription is about as far as I want to go. I'm intrigued by the upcoming Star Trek Picard on CBS streaming, but won't subscribe to that. Eventually it will turn up at our library or some other source. I might even be willing to pay a few dollars for it, and it alone. But if it doesn't show up elsewhere it won't bother me. Their loss, not mine.

What money I don't waste on television I probably spend on electronic books, newspapers, and magazines.

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
16. That's why I don't pay for ANY of that BS.........
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:18 PM
Aug 2019

Kicked COX to the curb with their overpriced cable and ENDLESS commercials and went to free streaming after canning YouTube TV. Endless commercials on YT and then a 25% price JACK after only being a subscriber for five months.

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