Trump has dementia - interesting speculation

[NewJeffCT]

with a lot of photographic and video support

Link to tweet

?s=19


text of first tweet:

1 What we see now are the remnants of Trump. A jumble of fractured thoughts in an unraveling vessel. These thoughts, the essence that made up a toxic mix of narcissism, depravity & criminality are fading away. Ppl will say"I saw Trump- there's nothing left of him." Let's rewind:

[NewJeffCT]

1. Link to unrolled thread

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1155293101134663680.html

[greymattermom]

11. The motor symptoms listed in this thread are obvious to anyone.

You don't need to test him to observe this. Tom Joseph suggests that Trump will start to fall a lot soon, and will require a golf cart (aka wheel chair) to go everywhere. He also mentions that this condition progresses rapidly. The motor symptoms will tell us.

[FakeNoose]

111. Yep, here's his list further down the tread

Link to tweet

[dewsgirl]

27. Thank you, on Twitter often there is a thread reader, but it will be buried in the

comments.

[lindysalsagal]

2. Wouldn't be the first time a gangster used the insanity hoax to avoid jail

25 Watching Trump crater from dementia will be a well deserved humiliation for his supporters. They will wear it around their necks for the rest of their lives. Enablers & opportunists who've covered up his dementia & helped extend his stay will face even more severe consequences

[Scarsdale]

36. The gop did cover up for

Saint Ronnie Raygun. He did have Nancy for protection. Maleria is useless to tRump. Right now she is busy planning the WH Christmas extravaganza. Taking care of the important things, you know.

[Ilsa]

60. Planning how much she can spend into "personal"

assets that are easily liquidated (gold, diamonds) for when she divorces the dotard. My guess is that she won't want to be responsible for helping to manage his care, and it's no fun throwing parties when you have to keep the noise level down so you don't wake up the dotard and have him wandering into your soireè pantless.

[dawg day]

99. Is she going to have another blood-red Xmas display?

That "White House Christmas" looked like it was out of Stephen King's The Shining.

[Scarsdale]

117. She has no taste in men,

nor apparently anything else.

[tblue37]

139. But Ivanka state close to him to contain the worst evidence. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

85. Leaving office due to illness will sanctify tRump with base: "He sacrificed himself for the country!

[Caliman73]

136. That was something I thought as well.

Trump's supporters don't really show any empathy either. They most certainly will not ask, "What have we done?" They will chalk it up to his "valiant fight against the ...." and will move on to find the next fool to follow to maintain their supposed dominance.

[3catwoman3]

152. He sacrificed the country...

...for himself is how that statement should go.

[cilla4progress]

89. I relish

the thought!

[hlthe2b]

3. there are member-only professional chat groups (mainly neurologists but some psychiatrists and

other medical specialties) online that have been discussing this since the 2016 campaign. Tom Joseph's belief that it is frontotemporal dementia (along with malignant narcissism) seems to be the favored diagnosis. The key thing is that FTD progresses more quickly.

[NewJeffCT]

4. there have been some fairly high profile dementia cases

where the victim succumbed rather rapidly - former Tennessee women's basketball coach Pat Summit stepped down because of dementia, and it seemed pretty quick to where I was reading about her passing.

[TNNurse]

26. Pat fit in the category of Early Onset Alzheimers because of her age.

Apparently those people do decline more rapidly. Trump has shown symptoms for awhile but not sure he could fit the early onset category. He did not seem this bad during the campaign. A raging asshole but not dementia.

[WinstonSmith4740]

140. My mom was hit with dementia in her late 70's.

It was, of course, awful but she seemed to be on what they called a "slow burn". She could maintain enough of a "normal" appearance in public that unless you knew, you'd never guess. But as time progressed, she started to go downhill fast. I think we're at that tipping point for Trump. He's ready to go totally over the edge, and there's only so much his "handlers" can do to keep it out of the public view. He lives for the spotlight and won't listen to anyone on his best days, so there's no way this decline can be hidden. If it hasn't already happened, soon he won't be able to actually read anymore, so his speeches will be even more of a rambling word salad.

But I'm sure Republicans will come up with a new definition of "normal" and convince their minions that his behavior falls squarely within its perameters. And the evangelicals will find a Bible passage about a mad king and they will all shrug their collective, hypocritical shoulders.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

147. Sorry about your mom. In the same boat with my dad

Horrible disease. I would vote for anybody who made curing cancer and Alzheimer's their top priority. More than fighter jets, bombs, troops..whatever.

[WinstonSmith4740]

159. Hang in there.

Depending on where you are in this battle, the changes are heart wrenching. My sisters and I became "you people". She kept wanting to know where her "little girls" were...I think she was stuck in 1960, when everyone she knew and loved was alive, her children were children, and she was in her best years. Just keep reminding yourself that it's not your dad speaking, it's his disease.

And take care of yourself. Take time for yourself. Mom lived with us for a year before we found a great assisted living facility for her, and it was tough. Message me if you need to rant.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

160. I live far away and my sisters have the brunt. Tell me

a funny story about your mom?? Because as insidious as this disease is...there is some momentary humor (I hope anyway)...

[WinstonSmith4740]

161. She was mom.

I'm sitting here trying to think of "Ha-ha" type funny stories and really can't. But I've got to admit, even before she got hit with Alzheimer's, she was flaky as hell. In fact, we just thought it was her usual goofiness at first. She was supposed to pick up a friend and me one day and literally forgot about it on her way from the phone to the door because my newlywed sister walked in with her husband! And of course, the time she was trying to teach me how to make spaghetti sauce over the phone, and trying to define the measurement of "some". And there was always the time my husband and I got her to smoke weed with us. Figured she wouldn't remember it, so couldn't rat us out to my sisters!

But she was always there. Left work early to come to my field hockey games in high school and college. Taught me how to sew and do needlework. She wore the apron I made her for Christmas one year until it was falling apart. When she passed, and I started going through her stuff, I found art projects from damned elementary school. But I think my favorite is her recipe box...handwritten, with a lot of them basically one long run on sentence, with again, measurements listed as "some". Whenever I pull one out to try it, I'm 18, back on the phone with her, holding a conversation on how much is "some"?

This part is hard to come to grips with. I'm assuming you and your siblings will want to keep him with one of you. That was our plan, too. My dad passed about 4 months after her diagnosis, and in settling his affairs, we told the lawyer mom would be living with one of us...there are 4 of us and we would "share" custody. Unfortunately, that won't work. You can't disrupt their lives like that, and throw change at them. He looked at us and said, "All good attentions aside, your mother will get to a point where you simply can not care for her." And you will need to deal with that. Just remember that it is the absolute best thing you can do for everyone involved. We found a great place for mom, and she was happy there.

Hang in there, and just keep remembering dad as he was. Visit as much as you can...even if he won't remember you were there, you will.

[True Blue American]

28. I have watched Demento sink into Alzheimer's

Too many times to not see the symptoms.

BTW, an obvious sign is anger because they do not understand what is happening. Another sign is one track thinking over and over. Someone is stealing from them, hates them, on and on

Many get really mean. Trump’s non stop hate tweeting, rage filled is a classic example. I wonder if he actually plays much golf any more, the staff covers up for him. When he does speak it is just one, long tirade and is usually something he sees on Fox.

[lindysalsagal]

5. His perfection bragging and using physicians to cover up started immediately: He knows he's sick.

We need to keep repeating the meme: POTUS is sick. That will not only enrage him, but it will turn off his supporters who will harbor no sympathy for a sick, weak, old man.

[defacto7]

73. Thus the coverup of his physical conditions since the beginning

from that quack Dr. of his.
I'm not so sure about your second point. His supporters are as divisive as he is. They don't want to have been wrong.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

148. Remember that the doc in NYC said that he only

vouched for his physical side..not his mental. He acted like he was joking...but.....

[lindysalsagal]

157. I didn't realize that, but I do remember he was laughing and not looking directly

into the camera, and that it was a total joke.

[HockeyMom]

12. That is what my SIL passed from

Not a doctor but I have noticed the same signs in Trump. Could not let go of what she perceived as a personal attack on her. Even something very slight became a mountain. Escalated to the point where she would physically attack the person who "wronged" her. In addition, she could not remember what she said 5 minutes before and would repeat herself. She had major anger issues.

It took about 5 years before family noticed something was very wrong, and she was diagnosed. She died 5 years from when she was first tested.

We were told in layman's terms that her brain cells were disintegrating. When it spread to involuntary bodily functioning cells, she would die.

[DesertRat]

29. I'm sorry about your SIL

That has to be so tough to deal with, both for the person and their family. May she rest in peace.

[murielm99]

80. My father had dementia.

It took about six years for him to simply fade away and die.

My father's decline and passing was gentle. I think that was because he was a gentle man.

[cilla4progress]

90. Sad,

yet lovely.

Hugs!

[catrose]

108. That reminds me of when I took my father to the nursing home because he could not function any more

We were in some kind of waiting area. We could see residents and staff. I was on the knife-edge of tears, doing this terrible thing to my father in his best interests. He tapped my shoulder and asked, "How can we help these people?"

I want to be that person today and if I'm ever in his condition.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

142. What an amazing thing for him to say. We are

Close to that point with my dad. He's 97. One day, he got dressed and said he was going out to look for a job..."somebody's gotta work around here!"

[catrose]

143. Oh gee. My dad kept thinking the same thing, that he needed to go get a job.

I kept telling him that he'd worked long enough; he could relax. Did not compute. Every older person in my life fought to keep productive. And they'd worked so hard! Maybe that was the point.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

145. OMG so true. It is the true, loyal, dignified, responsible self who comes shining through.

Everything Trump isn't. Loved that the local Austin liberals on KLBJ said - "don't overthink...don't talk about wild policy ideas...just NOT BE TRUMP.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

144. That actually sounds quite charming.

He sounds like a great guy.

[sprinkleeninow]

154. Oh...

[3catwoman3]

115. I said, during the campaign, that if he won, he would never get any work done...

...because he would be spending all his time reacting to each and every little criticism directed toward him, let alone reacting to the big ones.

Whether dementia related or personality disorder in nature, this is pretty much what he does. He is completely incapable of ignoring even the smallest of slights.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

149. That is so true. Was thinking it had been 2 1/2

Years and I don't remember trump even getting a normal cold...do you? This is actually quite unusual isn't it? Especially for someone his age who doesn't sleep.

[mr_lebowski]

153. I'm 52 and ATM I have my first proper cold in about 8 years ...

Never actually felt bad, just stuffy-nose and then congestion in teh chest, coughing up phlegm. It set in on Saturday afternoon, pretty close to over it now.

Before that it was probably 8 years since I had one. Before that another 8 years. Etc.

And I've taken fairly terrible care of myself since ... around when Bush II won. And I never really even think about germs. I won't go into details, but ... they're not really a 'thing' to me.

Despite this, I haven't 'spent the day in bed sick' (in the sense of it being caused by germs) since I was teenager.

That could of course totally change by the time I'm Trump's age (though it's unlikely I live that long), but it's not unusual-sounding to me ...

[Zoonart]

6. Been saying this for two years now.

I went down this long dark road with my father and I can see all of these symptoms in MF45.

That's why they only let him have these press avails in front of helicopters. He is unable to moderate his voice and screams all the time. He can cover his cognitive problems by claiming not to hear over the engines. The press can't hear his word slurring. I would love to see some sound tech remove the helicopter noise from one of these"press conferences" so that we can see what he really sounds like.

It is also why they shoo the press out of the meeting rooms and the oval before he has to get up from his chair.
I think that he may face plant any time now.

[NewJeffCT]

7. yes

people think he's just doing that because he doesn't want to answer questions. I wonder if it really is a cover.

He seems to be firmly holding Melania's hand more when walking as well - speculation was that it was optics. Now, maybe she's there to help him walk and balance?

[Cracklin Charlie]

8. Wow!

I’ve been following Tom Joseph for a while, but I’ve not heard anyone bring up the helicopter noise as cover angle. I had been wondering about this. So many places to talk to press, but they choose helicopter pad...

Tom’s twitter bio explains how he reached his dementia conclusion. Quite interesting.

[Scarsdale]

52. St. Ronnie did the exact same

helicopter ruse. If there was even ONE true patriot in his administration or even in the gop, they would expose the truth for the sake of the country and the world.

[Cracklin Charlie]

84. Hmmm...

Perhaps someone with skills could do a mash-up of Ronnie and Donnie?

[no_hypocrisy]

10. Same here. So much like my father (93) that it evokes PTSD in me.

The language, the unfocused eyes, the gait, the meandering thought process while trying so hard to pretend he's in control.

In my case, my father had his MAGA patsy, a neighbor who was convinced that my father "really knows what's going on." He enabled my father not to pay six months of bills before he died and inadvertently was why my father died. The neighbor knew our father had a car accident where he hit his chest on the steering wheel and helped Dad hide that accident from his children. Because we didn't know, Dad didn't get medical attention, and died one week later from a dissected aorta (rupture) and he bled internally until he had a heart attack.

[Zoonart]

16. OH my god... so sorry for how this manifested for you

I was so lucky that, at th time, my mother wqs still on the ball and able. I absolutely get it.

[True Blue American]

30. I had a friend who

Had the same thing.in an accident, she refused to get medical attention, died from internal bleeding.

[no_hypocrisy]

37. Got one better:

my father, suffering from undiagnosed dementia, was a former cardiologist. He had superior knowledge, training, and experience and it meant nothing in preventing his demise.

[True Blue American]

62. Such a shamr

MIL had dementia from low blood pressure. StepFather had Alzheimers, smiled at me said a couple of words. I heard him hit the floor. My Husband a Volunteer paramedic said he was gone before he hit the ground. We had 5 Firemen here within a couple of minutes. They were at a meeting when the call came in. Bad heart, but lucky they were at my house when it happened.

[cilla4progress]

93. Sounds like

Involuntary manslaughter!

[dawg day]

22. He mentioned that meeting with the Nobel winner

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... where Trump remained seated and she had to stand almost behind him. When she told him her family had been slaughtered, he asked, "Where are they?" No understanding of what she had said.
The assessment was that he can't stand still anymore unsupported, also that he was unable to understand what she was saying, and why she was there. He perked up only when he realized she had won the Nobel, and seemed to want tips.
It was very telling ... dementia mixed with sociopathy is scary.

[Lonestarblue]

32. Yet he still seems to walk easily to the helicopter and down the steps of AF1.

I definitely think he has cognitive issues, but a refusal to stand during that Oval Office meeting with the refugees was pure Trump, as in “I’m the most important person in the world and all of you are not important at all.”

[usaf-vet]

67. is it not possible that he gets some drug prior to the walk that enables him to function briefly.

Cocaine? Some other neuromuscular stimulants?

[Stargazer09]

156. Look at his pupils

An ophthalmologist/body language expert I follow on Twitter is always pointing out the enlarged pupils. They are often linked to drug use.

Here is the post he wrote:
https://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2018/03/body-langauge-analysis-no-4221-why-are.html?m=0

[delisen]

105. He still stands at podium at rallies; still plays golf

He will be completely willing to claim dementia and get a diagnosis in order to avoid being tried and convicted of his crimes.

[dawg day]

127. I think walking might be easier to balance than standing still

When he's speaking and standing, he's constantly swaying and jerks slightly every few seconds.

But yes, his absolute narcissism just makes it worse-- I remember him cutting in front of the queen, who wasn't just, you know, the queen, but a 90-year-old lady. You could tell he didn't care that he might make her fall-- didn't notice her beyond the very basic notice.

[True Blue American]

132. Trump was walking very stiffly that day

That is a sure sign of nerve damage, after making the Queen wait for 15 or 20 minutes.

She cut the luncheon very short. He was gone in less than 45 minutes.

[True Blue American]

33. Trump also did not look at her.

He tried, but could not focus. Then asked where are they now?

Several Republicans have come out against Ratcliffe including Raymond Burr who said he did not have the qualifications.

Trump heard him ranting at the Mueller hearing.

[Bayard]

46. I thought the interview with Stephanopoulos was really weird

Where tRump remained seated, and George kind of hovered around.

[Poiuyt]

69. It was weird, but you always see him seated at his desk with others standing

That's the way he likes to do photo ops. I always assumed it was just some perverted power play.

[smirkymonkey]

25. That's an interesting take, I never thought of that. I always wondered why they always seemed

to only question him in front of helicopters. What was the progression like with your father, if you don't mind me asking? I'm sorry you had to go through this personally, but I would like to think that Trump will soon be soon too unfit for office.

[Ilsa]

63. Wow. You just answered my question about why

he always has really loud arranged ambient noise when he's talking to the press.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

150. They told me someone posted on this thread about

his copter pressers. That's my big thing. I thought he designed to look busy and important (whisk me away to something critically important)

What you are saying is fascinating. That it's by design to hide his weaknesses. I thought by design because he's an asshole and better because the noise drowns out the question and he can riff.

So today, I noticed when it was over and he walked toward the copter...the rotors we're NOT moving. So what IS making the racket?

[JaneQPublic]

9. Mad Cow Disease

Or late-stage syphilis.

Or maybe porphyria, the disease long thought to cause The Madness of King George III.

[Everyman Jackal]

13. I'm hoping for syphilis.

[usaf-vet]

71. Wouldn't that be justice. A germaphobe. Infected with a STD. Because sex overrides all else.

[defacto7]

77. Syph has been treatable for years, but Mad Cow? Nope.

I vote for MCD.

[Red Pest]

119. Could be tertiary syphilis

I just reviewed the literature on syphilis. While all stages (primary, secondary, latent, and tertiary) are treated with penicillin (by intramuscular injection), the damage acquired during tertiary syphilis (including dementia, loss of motor control, and personality changes) is not reversed. So, three doses of penicillin will kill all remaining Treponema pallidum bacteria and stop any further damage, the damage from the prolonged infection will persist. Based on Trump's declaration that his personal Vietnam was his battle with STDs during the 70s, it is possible that he didn't get adequate diagnosis and treatment for syphilis.

[catrose]

146. Balanchine died of mad cow disease because he took a dicey cure for impotence involving sheep brains

So, yeah, that could happen.

[Bettie]

14. He's always been a terrible person

so, I'm not accepting this as an excuse for his behavior, since it isn't new.

In other words, he may be getting dementia, but if he is, it has removed whatever tiny filters he had, not made him a worse person.

[CrispyQ]

87. This: "it has removed whatever tiny filters he had, not made him a worse person."

If he ends up in a wheelchair, will his base suddenly encourage empathy & compassion, or will they mock him like he mocked the disabled reporter?

[Polly Hennessey]

15. Then why isn't he unraveling to the

point where he falls apart. He does make slips, slurs, and stupid statements but is still functioning.

[NewJeffCT]

18. the people around him

have limited his public appearances, or have tailored them to where he can easily support himself and/or get support.

Eventually, something too big to ignore may happen.

[True Blue American]

34. I agree.

[Bayard]

48. Another reason to doubt he will do any debates

He may just fall apart in living color.

[usaf-vet]

58. Has he always used two hands to drink. There are numerous photos of him holding a glass with 2 hands

Is there possible neuromuscular involvement in any of the speculated diagnoses contained in this post.

[bucolic_frolic]

17. The anger could be a big reveal

Dementia patients can go rogue. Don't know where they are, take the car and drive 300 miles and think they're nearly home. Or can have outbursts, sometimes violent. It's well documented in the literature.

[NewJeffCT]

20. I'm wondering

if the anger will lead to an outburst where he uses the N word ?

[3catwoman3]

114. We know he is just itching to do so, and likely...

...does in private.

[NewJeffCT]

116. He supposedly used it behind the scenes at The Apprentice

but, who knows if that is accurate. (I think Tom Arnold made the claim in the past) I know the producer (Mark Burnett) has zealously guarded the tapes of the show, as I'm guessing they're pretty damning (probably a boatload of sexist material as well)

[True Blue American]

131. A good share of the Trump anger

Is based on envy of President Obama. The constant comparison frives him nuts.

[3catwoman3]

133. Count me among those who are quite sure that the White House Correspondents'...

...dinner, at which President Obama so masterfully deflated Trump’s overblown ego balloon, played a major role in Cadet Bonespur’s decision to run.

[DeminPennswoods]

19. More wishful thinking than not, imho

Trump's serioulsy overweight. His knees and hips are likely starting to give out accounting for balance, walking issues. He definitely looked to be limping in that video, but he plays a lot of golf and could just as easily gotten a hip flexor from a poor swing. I think he uses a golf cart and rides whenever possible because he's just too fat and out of shape to walk.

[NewJeffCT]

23. that sounds plausible

Tom's background is not as a physician, but he's seen dementia up close.

[True Blue American]

35. Leaning forward.

several asked about Trump leaning forward when he stands. I noticed that is how he balances his fat gut.

[Nasruddin]

66. Agreed

I'm skeptical too, but I acknowledge minimal experience.

On the one hand, Mr Trump sounds worse than ever - but does he really? I was thinking the stuff he said in 2015 sounded like crazy word salad. His tweets then were wacky. Maybe I'm listening with confirmation bias turned up.

Physically, he looks enormous. My guess is his can't get out (or in) his chair without help now. Can he walk for any distance? Probably not. Does he really still golf? That would be useful to find out. Probably not much. All that's a pretty clear indicator of obesity, physical deterioration related to aging, and probably lack of care for his well-being, not sure about dementia though.

On the other hand "many people are saying" they see various signs of dementia.

Likely something is going on, beyond the bounds of regular aging. Likely his physical condition is deteriorating fairly rapidly - would he finish a second term? Mentally, maybe. I think he was incompetent going in, but he managed to wipe the floor with his Republican rivals for nomination - what do I know? It's really up to a competent, independent doctor to diagnose. This is what should be happening.

We need to change the laws and the constitution if necessary to require independent medical exams of senior government leaders with results made public. No expectation of privacy for the presidency, cabinet secretaries, or members of congress. We also need to think about the elders running for president and what that might mean.

[DeminPennswoods]

121. Been watching my parents age

for over a decade. Dad took up running later in life and essentially wore out his knees. He ran kind of bent over, too. When the knees got too bad, his gait was more an unsteady sway and wobble, but he managed to stay upright. At the end, he had some dementia mixed with recurring UTIs, but it was hard to tell which caused inhibitions occassionally to fall away. To me, he looks like a person with bad wheels.

My observation is that as we age, we are less inhibited about what we say or less inclined to care about how we say whatever it is we have to say. You can certainly see the process when you look at interviews of the 40-something Trump and the 70-something Trump. The younger Trump was more charming and measured in his speech as opposed to the current version. But you can see that in, for example, the Bob Newhart who guest appeared on The Big Bang Theory and the Bob Newhart of his 70s/80s sitcoms. The speech is slower, the gait not as steady.

There's no doubt Trump is at risk for dementia given his father's death from Alzheimer's or that he has some sort of mental illness (narcissism), but I think it's more likely we are seeing what happens to people who get old, fat and out of shape.

[Stargazer09]

155. Read the twitter links

@TomJoseph does have a thread somewhere in his feed that shows the progression.

It’s not just the obesity. It’s the involuntary movements, the tongue juts, and the inability to form coherent sentences.

[DeminPennswoods]

158. IMHO, this guy just sees what he wants to see

Kind of "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail", but ymmv.

Fred Trump had Alzheimer's (or dementia), undoubtedly that puts Trump more at risk, but tbh, Trump's 73 or so and we all change when we age - our balance isn't as good, our memory isn't as good, we don't see as well, it's not as easy to get up and down, less inhibited or worried about the approval of others and so on. Trump has, and probably has always had, a reptilian brain cunning, thus his increasingly awful rhetoric designed to fire up his base.

[Botany]

21. Could be true

[SharonAnn]

106. I read this video subtitle as "Live President Returns Home". As opposed to "Dead President"?

[dawg day]

128. The constant mouth stuff is a sign too, i guess--

Making the fish mouth, sticking the tongue out.

With him, it's also emitting sht from his mouth.

[WinstonSmith4740]

141. I remember when this happened.

I love that Fox tried to frame it as him trying to "ditch" his limo, as opposed to what probably really happened, which was he got lost between the end of the stairs and the limo parked right in front of him.

[empedocles]

24. Still ominous ''method to his madness''

[OnDoutside]

31. Don't give him that "out". He's just an amoral, narcissistic, evil asshole, brought up by

unloving, evil parents.

[GusBob]

38. Interesting indeed, what does #23 the eating thing have to do with it?

do people with FTD have trouble chewing

[NewJeffCT]

39. good question

it may be a stage in dementia where the person has trouble chewing & swallowing, but I don't know.

[GusBob]

42. Yeah I looked it up

Trouble swallowing. Also overeating is common

[Mc Mike]

40. Re number 13, I'd pay good money on pay per view to watch him try to pull off

the 'old time businessman in charge' move, when the top guy puts his feet up on the desk and leans back in the boss's chair with a cigar in his mouth.

[nini]

41. He doens't seem to have a problem when he's spewing hate and bullshit

He's lazy as far as not knowing things he should - like policy, history etc..

but his ability to stay on his topic when hate and revenge is involved doesn't support that wishful thinking. He could be in some early stages because of age etc.. but he's just a grade A narcissistic evil man.

[Pepsidog]

43. I watched the video on twitter. I despise Trump more than anyone but he seemed coherent speaking

with people outside the restaurant. He is ignorant, clueless, and had no class. Let’s not excuse his abhorrent behavior by saying he has dementia. He exhibits some signs of mental decline at times but still can whip up a crowd into a violent frenzy.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

88. People w dementia have good days and bad days.

Note: every day with tRump is a bad day for the USA, especially if puppet masters are pulling strings out of public view.

[Pepsidog]

95. Good point.

[GusBob]

44. having trouble with words and language

Explains the "infantroopen" thing from last week and the "seize the airports" thing among others

[True Blue American]

65. Infantroopen?

That is a new one for me.

[GusBob]

68. Yeah late last week in a medal ceremony

he also said "lawermarkers" for "lawmakers"

[True Blue American]

76. What was the

Infrantroopen in reference to?

[GusBob]

78. the medal recipient was a soldier

I think he garbled Infantry trooper

[Takket]

45. I hope he's perfectly healthy

I don’t want to hear any of this used for a lenient sentencing after his inevitable trial.

[LiberalArkie]

47. Senior Aspergers

[eShirl]

51. no

[LiberalArkie]

59. I see a lot of me in him.

Sense of balance, the not being able to follow the script but can ramble on for hours really about nothing and other things I can not remember.

He is definitely not NT.

[True Blue American]

74. Do you repeat

The same thing over and over? My friend whose husband had been dead for several years reverted to the same sentence about him when I talked with her.

Dementia begins with short term memory loss. She could recall everything about our childhood, but not remember what she said a few seconds ago. Then she slowly lost that,too.

In her Sons house, then Nursing home she kept her little suitcase because she was going home. Actually escaped one time by going out the window. 250 miles from home. It is a terrible disease.

I do understand they have come up with some preventivs medicines.

[LiberalArkie]

81. Not at that point yet, I do not remember very much of my childhood.

To this day I do not remember my brother when we were kids.

I do monolog like the kids do, Do ever ask my how I am doing. I will tell you and it may take hours. If I am in a monolog and you start to walk away, I just follow to finish what I was talking about.

I bang into door frames a lot, I never knew why. It is an aspie thing. We seem to have a spacial awareness problem.

We tend to mentally age faster the NT's and then slow down. I think that is why as adults we tend to not age much.

Much like the child with HFA, we have to complete a task. I still do that. I was trying to find information on an uncle and stayed at my computer for over 30 hours looking before I went to sleep.

As a side note it is carried by the male genes.

[True Blue American]

92. You seem to be doing

Pretty well in your posts.

Nervousness causes me to do dumb things, especially when I go some place for the first time.

[LiberalArkie]

123. It is wild that I have always had dyslexia when reading or hand writing, but never

when using a keyboard or reading text on TV. I have always had a hard time understanding people like a lot of espies do, but closed captioning allows me to understand movies.

Brains are weird devices. I went to a ENT doc to see why I banged into door frames and was not very graceful, they never found anything. I get on Reddit/aspergers and find out it is pretty common. It is fun at times finding out new things at my age.

[True Blue American]

124. You said the magic words,

Learning new things. I think that is what keeps the mind fresh.

I have never been able to remember names, but found that is common in all walks of life.

I do not have dyslexia but find myself typing letters backwards.

We all have our strong points and bad ones.

I speed read like crazy because I craved books from the time I could read. We had a mobile library that stopped in front of my house. Read our 8 books,exchange,read theirs.

I picked up 7 at the Library this morning.

[LiberalArkie]

129. I used to do that also at several points in my life. In school I had to pay attention because I

could not make sense of the words in the books. In my late 20's and 30's Books were like a drug, I could not keep myself in books to read. Stranger in a strange land went by in a day. But now I can't make sense of the words any more, so it is audio books.

I probably just need someone to pull my brain and pressure wash it and pop it back in and I will be good to go.

[True Blue American]

130. Audio books are great.

You are still absorbing the words,as you are reading.

[lindysalsagal]

120. Anyone who works with people on the spectrum knows it's not that.

They have their own hang-ups but they are usually totally honest, to a fault. They're also usually fair-minded: They believe rules apply to all.

Spectrum sufferers don't grin and sneer and mock and insult and innuendo like he does: They're totally concrete. They're also completely subtle when they don't like someone. He's the opposite: He's total b.s. fluffernutter.

He bears no resemblance what-so-ever to anyone I've worked with on the spectrum.

[True Blue American]

125. Right on!

[Cousin Dupree]

49. Can you even imagine what behavior of his is being covered up?

I’ll bet he’s in constant fear that someone around him is going to let the cat out of the bag. He probably has threatened them not to say a word. I think we would be appalled if we knew what was going on behind the scenes with his mental status and behavior.

[Bayard]

50. tRump has always been demented though...

[sagesnow]

53. Remember when he grabbed

Theresa May's hand going down an incline. That was a couple of years ago. He must have been loosing his balance then.

[OBrien]

54. Reagan( or his handlers) constantly used helicopter noise

as an excuse not to engage to closely. It’s looking increasingly like Trump is too. Yelling or pretending not to hear is an easy excuse.

[Pacifist Patriot]

55. I'm one of those who have been screaming it for years.

I commented shortly after inauguration that he would be unlikely to last a full term under the stress of the office. He's a sociopath with dementia, no doubt in my mind whatsoever. And the accelerating rate is not surprising in the least.

It's been one among many reasons why the GOP alarms the fuck out of me. A lot of people in his orbit know. I agree with Tom Joseph. It's criminal.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

91. "stress of office"? He works? No, stress of worrying about Mueller, Committees, state attorneys, etc

[True Blue American]

126. The reason he attacked Cummings. Cummings is going to expose him.

Fear is now his motivator. Fear and hate.

[awesomerwb1]

56. Maybe

As much as I despise the POS, I haven't seen a noticeable decline. If there is indeed a serious problem, they're all handling it very well. I don't see any deterioration that will affect his ability to crank up his campaign in a few months. Trust me, I hope/pray/wish/desire that I'm wrong.

Just my 2 cents.

[SWBTATTReg]

57. I know everyone is attempting to diagnose rump but I think it is clear what his problem(s) are...

a bigot, a racist, a narcissist, a crook, a mix of STDs (more likely than anything), etc.

Nothing so sinister or the like, it's just simply that he has abused his body and mind so much, that his just awards are finally coming home to roost.

[GusBob]

70. yes playing internet Dr is wrong, I agree

but clearly something is pathologically wrong with this guy

And one of the hallmarks of FTD is that it affects different people in varying ways

[True Blue American]

79. To be honest

I think fear is making him unbalanced, especially his attack on Cummings. He is aware of how much they have on him.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

94. Yes, his racism, crime, & narcissism bigger issues than & predate dementia. . . . nt

[DesertRat]

61. Thanks for posting. This is chilling

Link to tweet

[yaesu]

64. I think we are just seeing normal tRump, the tRump his close peeps know and love

the conman, criminal, thug, spoiled rich brat all rolled into one. The NBC trained actor is wearing off, his true colors are emerging.

[CrispyQ]

72. If he had family that truly loved him they would encourage him to resign & get him the help he needs

But they are just like him - in it to profit to the bitter end, who cares what happens to dear old dad. Just desserts, I say.

[smirkymonkey]

118. But they don't love him.

They all just want his money, or whatever is left of it.

[Javaman]

75. there is plenty "left of him"...

He was always a narcissistic controlling know it all prick. he has always lacked a moral compass and had no ethics let alone the ability to empathize.

the only difference now is, he president and everyone with an ounce of sense sees him for what all us New Yorkers and former New Yorkers have always known him to be: a grifting piece of shit.

up until he became prezzz he could control the narrative regarding how people perceived him, but that fell away once he started campaigning.

just now, we the nation now see him for what he has always been: a petty con artist with the mental capacity of a softball. A wore down, threads falling apart, stuffing coming out softball.

[no_hypocrisy]

82. Here's the interesting thing about dementia:

Your social filter is gone.

Pre-dementia: You tend to be an SOB but on a practical basis, you risk divorce, alienation from your kids, losing your job, having few friends, etc. That's the filter that tells you to act differently than your predilections. Your family knows but even then you try to tamp it down.

Dementia: Filter's gone. You're a raving SOB. Say offensive things. Act like a bully. You want what you want. You don't take "no" for an answer. Kids don't like it? Disinherit them. Can't get fired as you're retired. Etc.

Dementia reveals your true soul. The theory that you mellow and become a teddybear is a lie if you never were a teddybear.

[Javaman]

83. My mom had Demenia...

I know it's effects well.

growing up in NYC he and his crooked dad where always scam artists.

if there is any "filter" that has been removed it's the filter that made him pretend to the public that he gave a shit about anyone else other than himself.

I'm not denying that he has Dementia at all, I'm just saying that he's always been a pile of shit.

[no_hypocrisy]

86. Agree with you 1,000 percent.

You understood my point.

Dementia removes the mask.

[True Blue American]

98. On that one I can agree.

My MIL, kindest person you would ever know. Decided one DIL was stealing from her. Tableware that had US on them. All Sons in the Army, one lifetime. You can imagine where they came from.

Old towels so hard you could not use them. Money hid every where. Then progressed to everyone.

Sad, but funny at times.

[CrispyQ]

96. This one:

4 Trump auditioned in 2011 w/ his birther scam- a propaganda attack on Obama, he wouldn't let go of. Trump "made his bones" w/ it, and Putin was happy to help him in 2016. What Putin didn't count on was getting caught & Trump becoming an ineffective shell, dominated by dementia.

Vlad still got a pretty good payoff even if his puppet is broken.

[redstatebluegirl]

97. We have been through this with two relatives, my Dad and my husband's Uncle.

What was amazing to me is the dementia seems to amplify any good or bad personality traits . My Dad became meaner than hell, he had always had a mean streak and this just made it worse. My husband's uncle was a gentle sweet soul and continued like that until the end came. My Dad's was much angrier while Uncle Rod's was so gentle. He was so kind to all of those taking care of him., not so with my Dad.

[area51]

122. My mom had dementia,

for awhile she was really mean and hateful. Then one day she switched over to kind and gentle.

[Leghorn21]

100. From an hour ago:

Trump's inability to give even a short speech- to
produce language from reading- is worsening. Notable
is his trunk to shoulder area involuntarily jerking as
he slurs. His hands splay out, even as he leans his
weight on the podium w/ his palms. He urgently needs
neurological care

Trump is really having trouble reading this morning:
"bar-partisan" followed seconds later by "nine-elective"

Link to tweet

[GusBob]

104. Yep proof right there

His comments this very day!

[UniteFightBack]

135. This muthafucka ain't declining fast enough for my liking. nt

[VOX]

101. Sleep deprivation is a gateway for cognitive impairment.

And that moron stays up all night tweeting, watching TV, and eating shit food. It’s a medical marvel that he’s gotten this far without a major health malfunction.

[crazytown]

102. Then juices himself with Adderall

to keep going through the day.

[VOX]

103. He's so loaded with pills he rattles like a maraca on the rare occasions when he actually walks.

I’ve thought the same. And prior to his rally-rants, he must get a very special Adderal “mega-cocktail” from Dr. Feelgood, just to get himself up to “speed.”

[crazytown]

107. +1

[VOX]

109. Great song. Perfect fit.

[NewJeffCT]

110. the medical marvel is

that Trump is a millionaire who can afford to pay for the best doctors and medications when needed.

[FakeNoose]

112. I think he does that stuff because he can't sleep

So yeah, what he needs is a good (non-addictive) sleeping pill at night, and avoiding all the other drugs.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

113. so, a treasonous, mobbed-up, racist rapist with dementia

Lock the treasonous motherfucker in a padded cell!

Let his vile, criminal offspring wipe his drool and his ass for the rest of his natural life. (1 handi-wipe allowed per day).

[Blue Owl]

134. May the sun set quickly

n/t

[KentuckyWoman]

137. I don't see how anyone can tell.

He never did have much of a filter, never did have much use for reality. He makes his own. All I see is that the carnival has gone international. I am unsure it is worse. I think it just has a wider audience.

[NewJeffCT]

138. If you listen to him speak even 3-5 years ago

he was generally more lucid. Still a racist and misogynistic pig, but he didn't ramble on and on verbally stumbling all over the place like he does now.

[3catwoman3]

151. The remnants of Trump are still...

...way too much Trump.