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My synopsis takeaway? The GOP does not give a damn if Russia controls/influences American elections! (Original Post) RKP5637 Jul 2019 OP
Well, to the extent that the Russians only help *them*. nt trev Jul 2019 #1
Exactly. Arkansas Granny Jul 2019 #5
Yep! Just like religion ... they want RW racist evangelists ... but oh, it doesn't apply to other RKP5637 Jul 2019 #9
Yep, one way street only to benefit GOP. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #10
I talked to a couple of them today and that's what it boils down to. They don't think working with uponit7771 Jul 2019 #2
wait till they help a Democrat.....laws will fly out of congress spanone Jul 2019 #3
Or out of their butts, trev Jul 2019 #7
As long as they are helping them yes. redstatebluegirl Jul 2019 #4
RePUBICans thank russia for the tax cuts and judicial nominations IADEMO2004 Jul 2019 #6
To them, that is preferable to losing, DFW Jul 2019 #8
You are probably right gratuitous Jul 2019 #11
Republicans LOVE Russia (and Putin) kurtcagle Jul 2019 #12
Yep!!! Exactly!!! Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #13

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
9. Yep! Just like religion ... they want RW racist evangelists ... but oh, it doesn't apply to other
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:51 PM
Jul 2019

religions and/or non-beliefs.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
2. I talked to a couple of them today and that's what it boils down to. They don't think working with
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:09 PM
Jul 2019

... the Russians is a removable offense even if Red Don was caught red handed.

DFW

(54,443 posts)
8. To them, that is preferable to losing,
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:05 PM
Jul 2019

And it is far less work (as well as potentially more lucrative to them individually) than finding new stances that might appeal to voters and improve the country.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. You are probably right
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jul 2019

But let's get them to say it out loud anyway, hmmm? Force them to admit, in so many words, that it's just fine with them that Vladimir Putin calls the shots for our country. I can think of a boatload of embarrassing follow-up questions to pose to them.

kurtcagle

(1,604 posts)
12. Republicans LOVE Russia (and Putin)
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jul 2019

1. Republicans were anti-Soviet Union because the USSR was a Communist country, which (in theory) put the rights of labor over the rights of capitalists.
2. Putin, despite having been a Communist at an extraordinarily high level, presided over the opening up of Russian (post Soviet) capital markets to the West.
3. In practice, most of the leadership in place today in Russia are appointees of Putin, while Russian democracy today is almost as autocratic as it was fifty years ago. However, the key point to most Republicans is that it no longer espouses the idea that labor has more right than capital.

Most Democrats don't really get this. They see Russia as an expansive political power with interests that are largely counter to and often inimical to the interests of the United States, acting like the USSR that had the Republicans so much in a tizzy over the decades. Republicans, on the other hand, see Putin as the kind of president that they wish that they had - autocratic, Machiavellian, ruthless, the epitome of what the perfect CEO looks like.

That's one of the big reasons why the issue just simply does not resonate with Republican voters. They don't care that Russia has nuclear weapons that are still live pointing at the US, don't care that they threw an election. The Russians were allies that put them into power. That's all that matters to them.





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